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R.I.P.D. title question. |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | May be we need one unique identifier per movie, in the same fashion that we need one unique identifier per cast or crew member? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Isn't that what the Original Title field is supposed to do for us? | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Wigram: Quote:
May be we need one unique identifier per movie, in the same fashion that we need one unique identifier per cast or crew member? ?? Why? The movie as such is already identified by "Original Title + Production Year", this, of course, implies that both dates are filled in correctly. What we are talking about here is the DVD-Title, which may, but doesn't necessarily has to, be identical to the Original Title. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
These discussions about titles is getting ridiculous.
The title rule needs to be changed. The marketing gimmicks that manufacturers use, does not get us the title we need
Men in Black 3 is the title, not MIB³
Men in Black 2 is the Title, not MIIB
Men in Black is the title, not MIB
Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace not what ever crap they put on the cover to sell it.
R.I.P.D. is the Title,
or any of the other stupid discussions we have about titles.. I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title. Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Completely agree with the martian! | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jeff Bridges: Ryan Reynolds: R.I.P.D.: Rest in Peace Department is clearly the title and the edition is obviously Blu-ray + DVD + Digital HD Ultraviolet. I don't see what the issue is.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | You really don't see any difference between actors' names appearing on the cover and a sub-title being included on the cover of the DVD?
I guess I have ascribed much more intelligence to the users of this program than others. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I guess I have ascribed much more intelligence to the users of this program than others. After you've been hanging around here for so long? Now that's what I would call "Excessive optimism". | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title? When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
Now that's what I would call "Excessive optimism". So it would seem! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?
When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? What rule would be ignored. On all releases we have to determine what portion of the text on the front cover is the title and what is not. That is where the common sense (if you want to call it that) comes in. From there you follow the rules on entering what you determined to be the title. Of course you can show a release to 2 or more people and you can get 2 or more answers on what people believe the actual title is. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?
When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT OF COURSE! "Common Sense" and "Invelos Forums" is the very definition of an oxymoron.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?
When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? Whenever possible. I may be in the minority, but am a HUGE fan of common sense. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
You really don't see any difference between actors' names appearing on the cover and a sub-title being included on the cover of the DVD?
I guess I have ascribed much more intelligence to the users of this program than others. Of course I see a difference...just as you seem to see a difference between the title and the sub-title. If I didn't, my post wouldn't make much sense, now, would it? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?
When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? Who said we should ignore the rules and use 'common sense'? What I said was, "we need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. The rule reads, "Use the title from the front cover." 'Jeff Bridges', 'Ryan Reynolds', 'R.I.P.D.' and 'Rest In Peace Department' are all on the front cover. Common sense tells me that the title is 'R.I.P.D.', so that is what I would use. Since the title I used was on the front cover, I have not ignored the rule. I have used, what I believe to be common sense, but I have not ignored the rules. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Quoting DoubleDownAgain:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't think the rule needs to be changed, people just need to use a little common sense in areas where the rules allow for it. In this case, they do. While the rule does say to take the title from the front cover, it does not tell us how to determine what on the cover is the actual title.
Using the title that started this thread as an example, people seem to know that 'Jeff Bridges' and 'Ryan Reynolds' are not part of the title. Why, then, is it so hard to accept that 'Rest In Peace Department' is also not part of the title?
When should we ignore the rules and use 'common sense'?
Whenever possible. I may be in the minority, but am a HUGE fan of common sense. My problem with using 'common' sense is that it isn't common, what is 'common' sense to one person maybe completely 'uncommon' to a next. Instead of relying on 'common' sense I'd rather have the rules improved. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander
BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii
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