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Everybody seems to think having everything in one profile is so nifty keen, but it isn't.  Try doing a lockup of a particular episode is a megaset of say, Buffy.  You can find something a big pile of data much faster by looking at smaller chunks of it than you can having to go through the entire pile at once.  Its much easier to scan episode data from 4 or 5 episodes on one disc than having to scroll through 30 odd discs worth of dividers in one profile.

Which wouldn't happen, because such a set would be a box parent to the individual seasons even under currently published rules.

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Then there is the issue of corrupted records.  I don't know how many of you have database experience, but I learned a long time ago not to put all my eggs in one basket, because when the basket gets dropped, you lose all your eggs.  Data should be segregated into smaller subsets that get accessed only when needed.  It not only ensures data is less susceptible to damage, but is a hell of a lot faster to access that huge massive records with everything in one.

In any case, this is a presentation issue.  It doesn't matter a damn bit HOW the data is stored, what is important is it is DISPLAYED.  If you want ALL the information to be in one profile on screen, the program can pull it all in from several small database subsets.  It will LOOK LIKE its all in one record, but would stored in separate profiles as needed.

Maybe that's too technical for some of you.

Quite being condescending. The one who acts like he knows every damned thing is rarely the one people pay attention to.

I wasn't being condescending.  It's apparent you don't understand all of it.  If you do a megaset like you describe above, you'll have a master and then a child for each season.  You'll still have about 20 episodes in dividers in one profile.  You still have to wade through that whole long list.  If I want to see the data on an episode in the last quarter of the season, I jump directly to the disc with the last 4 or 5 episodes on it, and have only 4 or 5 eps. worth of data to sift through.

But your whole premise falls apart at another level.  Most of the megasets don't have UPCs on the individual season boxes anymore, so your stuck with profiling all 30-40 discs in the set in either one big monstrous profile, or breaking it down into easily managed chunks disc by disc.  Much faster to do my way.

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That's like saying "I was just following orders."  You know where that has gotten people in the past.

Rules are fine.  I approve of rules.  I LIKE rules.  But sometimes, rules are too rigid.  They don't allow for any flexibility when new situations come up that require doing things differently to maintain efficiency.  In the military, somebody who follows the rules too closely is called a martinet, and creates dissension and morale problems, and in extreme cases gets people killed.  While I'm sure nobody will get killed over any of this, we sure as hell could do with some flexibility, and a bit less of the "follow the rules at all cost" attitude.

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That's like saying "I was just following orders."  You know where that has gotten people in the past.

Rules are fine.  I approve of rules.  I LIKE rules.  But sometimes, rules are too rigid.  They don't allow for any flexibility when new situations come up that require doing things differently to maintain efficiency.  In the military, somebody who follows the rules too closely is called a martinet, and creates dissension and morale problems, and in extreme cases gets people killed.  While I'm sure nobody will get killed over any of this, we sure as hell could do with some flexibility, and a bit less of the "follow the rules at all cost" attitude.

So you're now comparing following contribution rules for DVD Profiler to the Holocaust?

The rules for contribution are either there for everyone to follow or they aren't.

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In a nutshell, as long as no one removes the data from the parent profile everyone should be allowed to have child profiles if they want them.

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In a nutshell, as long as no one removes the data from the parent profile everyone should be allowed to have child profiles if they want them.

Been my point all along

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That's not a problem anymore as you can download the profile from your online collection. Ken has already said that the only thing that is shared between the different collections are the images. The data is exactly what the user uploaded when he last uploaded to the online collection. There's no link between the online database and the online collection any longer

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That's what I thought. So why have child profiles for each disc of Alias seasons 4 & 5 (R1) been submitted and accepted?

Because despite what the rules say, that's the way most people want those sets done.  There was a tacit agreement to do them that way some time ago, although some people will tell you I'm lying on that.

Believe the evidence you see in the database (the profiles that exist there).

So anything that's in the database is OK.  I love that argument!

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I wasn't being condescending.  It's apparent you don't understand all of it.

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If you do a megaset like you describe above, you'll have a master and then a child for each season.  You'll still have about 20 episodes in dividers in one profile.

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But your whole premise falls apart at another level.  Most of the megasets don't have UPCs on the individual season boxes anymore, so your stuck with profiling all 30-40 discs in the set in either one big monstrous profile, or breaking it down into easily managed chunks disc by disc.  Much faster to do my way.