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Bond Series (2008) releases - Overview formatting
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWigram
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Quoting aintnosin:
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If we're going to be ridiculously OCD about following the formatting on the cover, shouldn't we also be consistent?


The stated goal of invelos' is to achieve consistency in contributions.

Each DVD cover stands alone in the contribution process. The Overview is not compared or changed because of the formatting of other DVD covers.

The Overview is the one field in which consistency is easy to achieve - we copy the data exactly the way we see it.

That being said, personally I can't stand Overviews that are written in italics. I always fix them to my liking and lock those profiles.
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Every key holder has the right to vote. It is an obligation to each person to exercise his or hers rights, here and in life, to better themselves as long as it is within the rules (here and in life). If you decide not to exercise your right, you are just denying yourself of what is due you.

To the OP, don't let the posts keep you from contributing, this is how it is, most of us seem to be terse and rude at times, Except me, I'm terse and rude most of the time. You'll figure out who's mostly BS and ignore them.
Keep on truckin'


LOL. Funniest post I have read in these forums. Priceless.
Funnier still is that you actually believe your own BS.

"within the rules", unless of course, they aren't to your liking.....


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had 389 profiles corrections waiting to contribute, but since they contain Frederick E.O. Toye. I'll have to keep them local.


Guess I'm going to have to go the way of Yves now.



Little ateo357 picks up the ball and runs home because the other kiddies  won't play by his rules..



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if I'm not going to download from the database because of another stupid auto-filter, forcing an incorrect name (that everyone will be calling a common name). I very well can't contribute profiles that force the name change.


Priceless. Keep 'em coming.
Awaiting your reply with bated breath. LOL.
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Every key holder has the right to vote. It is an obligation to each person to exercise his or hers rights, here and in life, to better themselves as long as it is within the rules (here and in life). If you decide not to exercise your right, you are just denying yourself of what is due you.

To the OP, don't let the posts keep you from contributing, this is how it is, most of us seem to be terse and rude at times, Except me, I'm terse and rude most of the time. You'll figure out who's mostly BS and ignore them.
Keep on truckin'


LOL. Funniest post I have read in these forums. Priceless.
Funnier still is that you actually believe your own BS.

"within the rules", unless of course, they aren't to your liking.....


Quoting ateo357:
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had 389 profiles corrections waiting to contribute, but since they contain Frederick E.O. Toye. I'll have to keep them local.


Guess I'm going to have to go the way of Yves now.



Little ateo357 picks up the ball and runs home because the other kiddies  won't play by his rules..



Quoting ateo357:
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if I'm not going to download from the database because of another stupid auto-filter, forcing an incorrect name (that everyone will be calling a common name). I very well can't contribute profiles that force the name change.


Priceless. Keep 'em coming.
Awaiting your reply with bated breath. LOL.


   

All I can say is I bet your a douce in real life too. We can smell our own.
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The stated goal of invelos' is to achieve consistency in contributions.

Consistency is the last thing we get with those rules. As rules ask to recopy "exactly as on credits/cover", we get for the same "object" (titles, studios, names...) many variants that forbid to use database functions (sorting, searching, linking, filtering). And when we ask Invelos to explain their logic when effects of different pieces of rules lead to opposite directions, they carefully avoid to answer.
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I am going to ignore everything else that you posted, and answer this one question...I would have taken it as a 10 and here is why...because I answered the question he actually asked, rather than the one you seem to think he asked.

Wow.  #SMH  He was posting because he was frustrated and confused.  If you couldn't detect that I think that says so many things about you.

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Did he ask why his contribution was wrong?  No.  Based on his post, he already knew why it was wrong because the voters told him why it was wrong.

Really?  That is my point.  The rules can be confusing.  Why not try to help an explain to him where he went wrong?  Your post did absolutely nothing to help him become a better contributor.

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The only question he asked, the only part of his post requiring an answer was, "If we're going to be ridiculously OCD about following the formatting on the cover, shouldn't we also be consistent?"

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My answer, which completely ignored his snide remark, was direct and to the point.  I didn't tell him he was doing anything wrong...the voters did that...nor did I criticize him...in point of fact, he criticized us for being ridiculously OCD...so I am at a loss as to why you are so bent out of shape.

How in any way was your post constructive?  How did it help anyone that might have a similar question on the rules get any sort of clarity?  Absolutely nothing.  I love how I am "Bent out of Shape".  I have found many of your posts over the years to be great, and I have given you many green arrows.  But you also have the ability to post non-helpful & what appears to be judgmental posts such as the one I pointed out.  Why?

IMO your original reply scores a 1.  It didn't help anyone, besides your ego.
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After reading this... my thoughts on the exchanges...

1. While direct, I seen absolutely nothing wrong with TheMadMartian's reply to the OP. He just answered it in a short and direct manner with correct information.


Back on the subject of the answer to the OP, you see nothing wrong with it, but, indeed, you would not. As an experienced contributor, you know and understand the rules and their intricacies. Over the years, you have read many clarifications offered by Ken Cole and others like you. However, if you were a much less experienced contributor, you would take the comment differently, learning little from it.

Keeping with the teaching analogy, a teacher can be very short and direct when correcting a wrong colleague. When a student is wrong, however, one should thrive to make him learn, by giving explanations, even if these explanations have already been given many times before.

If we as a community want others to contribute (and have fun doing it), we have to develop a more welcoming attitude.


Well said.  Much better than I did, or could! 
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Back on the subject of the answer to the OP, you see nothing wrong with it, but, indeed, you would not. As an experienced contributor, you know and understand the rules and their intricacies. Over the years, you have read many clarifications offered by Ken Cole and others like you. However, if you were a much less experienced contributor, you would take the comment differently, learning little from it.

Keeping with the teaching analogy, a teacher can be very short and direct when correcting a wrong colleague. When a student is wrong, however, one should thrive to make him learn, by giving explanations, even if these explanations have already been given many times before.

First, I am not a teacher and he is not a student.  Second, I never told him he was wrong, I simply answered his question about being consistent.  And third, what further explanation TO THE QUESTION HE ACTUALLY ASKED was required?

The truth of the matter is, I gave him the correct answer to his question and, rather than following your own advice and adding something constructive, you have chosen to criticize the manner in which the answer was given.  Give me a break.

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First, I am not a teacher and he is not a student.


That is obvious.  But I ask, why not?  You know far more than him.  Why not encourage him and help rather than give the "correct answer" to his "question"?

His question wasn't really what he asked.  He thought he was trying to make a positive improvement to the database.  He was obviously frustrated with the rules & process.  Instead of taking the time to get to the root of the problem you choose the easy path and throw the "rules" in his face.  If he completely understood the rules I'm sure he wouldn't have posted.
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First, I am not a teacher and he is not a student.


That is obvious.  But I ask, why not?  You know far more than him.  Why not encourage him and help rather than give the "correct answer" to his "question"?

Talk about showing your true colors and helping one's own ego...seven posts in this thread, SEVEN, and you still haven't offered anything remotely constructive.  As a matter of fact, you haven't once even addressed the OP so, please, stop pretending that you care about him as it has become painfully obvious what it is you actually care about.
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... SEVEN...

Per rules, Se7en...
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That being said, personally I can't stand Overviews that are written in italics. I always fix them to my liking and lock those profiles.

I wonder why they should be formatted at all. We don't format anything else that I know of.
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... SEVEN...

Per rules, Se7en...

 
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... SEVEN...

Per rules, Se7en...

That made me laugh. 
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That being said, personally I can't stand Overviews that are written in italics. I always fix them to my liking and lock those profiles.

I wonder why they should be formatted at all. We don't format anything else that I know of.

Back in the Intervocative days, bold and italic, in the overview, were denoted by inserting an apostrophe before and after the 'bold' or 'italic' text.  Some people, myself included, felt that this was a little, shall we say, anal retentive as it added nothing of value to the overview.  While it did highlight the words, there was no way of knowing which of the two it was meant to be.

Rather than just removing the rule that required this, the 2008 release of version 3.5 added the ability to use bold and italic.  Don't get me wrong, I don't know that this adds any value either, but at least we no longer have apostrophes where they don't belong.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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And remember, if you don't like the formatting at all, just suppress it.

Tools>Options>Display.

Then you will not see the bold or italics at all...


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