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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
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Some of us are capable of making subtle distinctions.


Yes. Hopefully you manage to join those of us that can soon!
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the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us.


Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc.

Indeed.
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the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us.


Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc.


Unfortunately, those are of little or no use when determining the "Title" of the DVD, which is what the field calls for (not the theatrical title),  as illustrated by the "There's Something More About Mary" example, which everyone wants to ignore.
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Unfortunately, those are of little or no use when determining the "Title" of the DVD, which is what the field calls for (not the theatrical title),  as illustrated by the "There's Something More About Mary" example, which everyone wants to ignore.


This is another point where we have two incompatible positions : people who collect objects (DVD, Blu-ray), and  people who collect movies. "DVD title" (as T4xi, (), or Tak3n, or anything like "There's Something More About Mary" is important for the first ones and is a nonsense for the second ones. For them, "title" field is for the title of the movie in "their" language, and "original title" field is for the title of the movie in the language of country of origin. No place for "DVD front cover" crap...

As always, rules are very poorly designed. They say where to find the "title" (Use the title from the front cover.) but do not give any definition about what we want to be in that field : is it the movie title, is it a specific "DVD" title, is it a representation of DVD cover makers' fantasy ? nobody knows and everybody does what he wants... 
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the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us.


Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc.


And apart from the possibility to simply contact the publisher (Dutch FilmWorks) and ask.
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the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us.


Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc.


And apart from the possibility to simply contact the publisher (Dutch FilmWorks) and ask.


tbh, I'm, not sure why Kluge posted a picture of the Dutch release, when it is the UK release I submitted the correction to.
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the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us.


Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc.


And apart from the possibility to simply contact the publisher (Dutch FilmWorks) and ask.


tbh, I'm, not sure why Kluge posted a picture of the Dutch release, when it is the UK release I submitted the correction to.


Simply because the link to that cover is already available and it is almost the same, furthermore my question wasn't about that specific cover, but about wath we should consider the "title" of a DVD (and not of the film).
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As always, rules are very poorly designed. They say where to find the "title" (Use the title from the front cover.) but do not give any definition about what we want to be in that field : is it the movie title, is it a specific "DVD" title, is it a representation of DVD cover makers' fantasy ? nobody knows and everybody does what he wants... 

I am fairly sure most people know what we, and by 'we' I mean invelos, wants...the title of the specific release.  Not the film title, but the title of the actual release, which is why the rules were changed.  Does that, on occasion, give us user unfriendly titles?  Yes, but that isn't the norm.

In most cases, the title is easy to identify.  In cases where people might be a little confused, further research may be needed but they shouldn't have to look very far.  Due to a lack of space, the actual title, in the vast majority of cases, can and will be found on the spine.  "There's Something More About Mary" is on the spine.  As an aside, I honestly don't know why you think that title is nonsense as it is very informative.  It tells people that it is not the original cut of the film, but something more.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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  As an aside, I honestly don't know why you think that title is nonsense as it is very informative.  It tells people that it is not the original cut of the film, but something more.

In my opinion, the only thing that has sense is the title of the movie (may be original title, or title as seen in translated versions in theaters outside country of origin). To distinguish different versions, we have the edition field, that can be Director's cut, or Unrated version , etc..., which is sufficiently informative without butchering the movie title...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantJMGuer
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A 1940s B picture may be known under a slew of AKAs....original title, various re-issues titles, foreign titles, VHS release title....if its a PD title, it could be released on DVD under 4 different titles by 4 different companies....hell, 'you' could release a DVD of a PD title and name the DVD whatever you want, make up any name. Same movie.


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This is another point where we have two incompatible positions : people who collect objects (DVD, Blu-ray), and  people who collect movies. "DVD title" (as T4xi, (), or Tak3n, or anything like "There's Something More About Mary" is important for the first ones and is a nonsense for the second ones. For them, "title" field is for the title of the movie in "their" language, and "original title" field is for the title of the movie in the language of country of origin. No place for "DVD front cover" crap...





Yup. That's the way I do it in my local....and, yes, I know, its against the (DVDP) rules.
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