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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorScooter1836
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What non-official rule? In the rule says that the edition must be from the box (not a sticker on the wrap), it is only the clarification that the rule means front cover only that Invelos posted in the forum. Which in my honest opinion since it came from Invelos is as official as what is in the rules.

I'm sorry, but that isn't what the rule says.  Per the rule, only non-standard descriptions must come from the box.  If one of the built in selections is on a sticker, the rules don't disallow them.


Where exactly in the rules does it say that?


Quoting The Rules:
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It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate.

Which is directly followed by:
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If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, [...]


The only thing one might argue about is whether it's "appropriate" if the Edition is only to be found on a long lost sticker.
If the majority should decide that it is inappropriate, I'll be among the first to agree. But the rules leave a lot of room for interpretation here. In fact one might argue that the first sentence is redundant if built-in Editions have the same requirements as custom Editions.

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I think this is where Ken expanded on the issue: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=533687&PageNum=3&messageID=1537039#M1537039


Sorry Corey,
but Ken here only elaborates on non-standard Editions.
"Special Edition" now clearly is one of the built-in ones


That clarification mentions about "Standard Editions" and to be careful when using "non-standard" editions.  It says nothing about stickers being the edition
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Sorry Corey,
but Ken here only elaborates on non-standard Editions.
"Special Edition" now clearly is one of the built-in ones


Understood.

I still don't see how a sticker on the plastic wrap packaging in any way applies either way though.

I've certainly bought new releases before that have stickers on some copies, and not on others in stores. If one says "Special Edition" on it, and one doesn't, who's to say which is valid?

And if a packaging sticker is so important, and valid for information that can be added from it, do we need to start scanning covers with the stickers visible on now? Stickers have always been restricted. If somebody contributes scans with stickers, even if those show "Special Edition" (or similar) they're almost surely going to be voted down. I don't see how it can be either/or...


I agree, and I don't see how the clarification that was given even implies that the sticker can be used as opposed to the front cover.
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I agree, and I don't see how the clarification that was given even implies that the sticker can be used as opposed to the front cover.

Nobody said that the clarification implies that a sticker can be used, what was said is the clarification does not change the rule that does.

However, now that I go back and read that clarification again, it could be argued that a sticker, when it is placed on the front of the case, satisfies the "Is prominently displayed on the front cover" of that clarification. 
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That clarification mentions about "Standard Editions" and to be careful when using "non-standard" editions.  It says nothing about stickers being the edition


Did you even bother to read clarification and rules?
Neither rule nor clarification say anything about a standard-edition not being valid if it is printed on a sticker. In fact (regarding standard editions) stickers are not mentioned at all, neither are any other "enhancements" of the package, such as Slip-Cover, J-Slip, transparent plastic cases, etc.

Here are the two important parts regarding standard-editions (which are those that are built into DVDProfilers Edition selection) again, for those that can't be bothered to actually look it up.

1) The Rules:
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It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate.


2) The clarification from Ken as linked by Corey:
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use the built-in editions when applicable


In fact rule and clarification only leave one question:
Is it "appropriate" if the Edition is only to be found on a sticker?

My guess would be "No", but then again it's only me.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
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