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Include Bonus Features when part of the Overview or not?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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If a few of you would take the time to remember, the rule initially said to add the overview as it is written on the back cover. Then came all the discussions about tag lines and editorials that caused a rewrite. The rewrite (actually just an addition) is causing confusion, just as a couple of us said it would.

The addition simply needs to make it clear that anything not written as part of the overview is not to be added to your contribution with the following exception: Ken has decided to allow the addition of a list of episodes/film titles for sets.

The bottom line is this. The overview paragraph(s) are what is to be in your contribution. With sets, a list of episodes/film titles can be added.

Keep in mind that Ken, on occasion, took it upon himself to break a few paragraphs into sections in order to make emphasis on certain portions. I'm not sure, because I deleted my copy over two years ago, but this may be one of those instances where he did that. Either way, the rule, as it is stated presently, makes it seem contradictory if you are looking for it to be. The message is there.
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Where is consistency ?

I could explain it but, if I do, I could get hammered for trying to 'be a teacher'...


In fact, I would like to see your explanation. How can you logically write (in term of text analysis) that "exactly as written" is more important than "never include extra features" and less important than "never include Line-break hyphens", though both are in the same list, both with no special indications.

Fine, I will take the risk.  In my post I said, "A simple rule change, similar to the one below, should solve this."  My use of the word 'similar', meant something like that, not exactly that.  I threw it together in about a minute, just as an example.  It wasn't meant to be the exact wording.

Had I taken more time, it would have gone through several rewrites and, eventually, I would have come up with the same answer that CharlieM did.

@ Charlie, thanks for your post.  You are quite correct, it does make more sense that way.
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Had I taken more time, it would have gone through several rewrites and, eventually, I would have come up with the same answer that CharlieM did.


OK, but with that, you recognize de facto that your wording wasn't consistent...

But this is already the discussion of the new rules, if Ken accepts to change them. We are not yet there, and we had here to vote on the application of current rules. For them I still believe, in term of text analysis, that "never include extra features" has exactly the same weight than "never include Line-break hyphens", since both are in the same list, both with no special indications. If, for current rules, you argue that extra features must be kept, then you should vote "yes" if somebody includes line-breaks hyphens. This is just reading rules as they are now.
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And your reading of the Rules as they are now is dead wrong.

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Okay, now you guys are repeating yourselves.

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I believe line-break hyphens are a special case. They only make sense when they appear at the end of a line, which will vary depending on the font size used and the space available for the overview on a specific layout.  They should never be included because the overview is not supposed to be a 100% clone of the appearance of the box cover text.
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All have been accepted except one which I had to resubmit due to not including the overview!  That one should be processed in the next couple of days.
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Dork. 
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All have been accepted except one which I had to resubmit due to not including the overview!  That one should be processed in the next couple of days.

It gets worse...the older you get.      

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Dork. 


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All have been accepted except one which I had to resubmit due to not including the overview!  That one should be processed in the next couple of days.

It gets worse...the older you get.      

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Following my slip up, the last of the Apes films has now been approved.

Many thanks to all. 
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Following my slip up, the last of the Apes films has now been approved.

Many thanks to all. 

This just proves that screeners accept profiles that are not exactly "per the rules". I bet that they also would accept a new profile where existing typos in overviews would have been corrected.
Very good news... 
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And once your typo "corrections were uncovered, your typos should be CORRECTED as Rule violations.

Yet again.

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Please, don't try to correct any typos because Ken has clearly stated that they must stay.  Blatantly violating the rules will cost you 10 respect points and you'll have to bring donuts in for everybody.
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Blatantly violating the rules ....


     
All this thread is about blatantly violating the rules, and the profiles were accepted.

But don't worry, I have no intention to violate rules. I'll continue my fight to make change all that are stupid, but will follow them as they are.
Very different attitude than that of those who claim rules are a must, but violate them everytime they want  .
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The difference compared with typos in the overview is that the rule also says to copy exactly. You can't copy it exactly if you miss them out. So on that basis, it would be a violation to miss them out.
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