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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | You are going to need a heckuva lot more than that, SamuelRichardScott  . Do you have anything such as an email verification, or, better yet, her signing something? (It has to be a polaroid though, as anything else can be manipulated.) | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
You are going to need a heckuva lot more than that, SamuelRichardScott .
Do you have anything such as an email verification, or, better yet, her signing something? (It has to be a polaroid though, as anything else can be manipulated.) Unfortunately not. I'll try and hold her up at gunpoint and ask, but of course I'll need a signed written statement and video interview along with 30 links to pictures of her so people can verify it's her I'm talking to. Even then, it may not be enough. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Converting 'DILASCIO' into 'DiLascio' is not inventing data. Interpreting the data, yes. Inventing it, no. Since the rules require us to interpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly.
Now this is just sad. Instead of reading what I actually wrote, in the context of this entire thread, you cherry picked a section of a post to make it look like I said something I didn't. 
I didn't say that 'DiLascio' was correct, I said that I prefered to enter the data correctly. Not even close to being the same thing. As I said in my first post, "If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it." I'm confused. I understood your position as I believe surfeur understood it. I thought the discussion was regarding what's correct to enter. If something is correct data but not correct to enter...I'm confused. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I'm confused. I understood your position as I believe surfeur understood it. I thought the discussion was regarding what's correct to enter. If something is correct data but not correct to enter...I'm confused. This discussion, if you go back to the first post, was about what the standard is. I gave my opinion as to how I would enter the name in question. I never said it was correct, just that I would enter it that way. I also stated that, if I had the person's full name, I would research it to see how they capitalized it. After that, starting with T!M's post, the discussion moved to how to enter mixed case in general. On that subject, I stated that I prefer to enter the data correctly. Even in the portion that surfeur quoted, I never said that 'DiLascio' was correct, only that it wasn't inventing data. I went on to say that, since the rules require that I enterpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly. I am a parser, I use specific words to get my point across. When I say 'data', I mean data. If I had meant to say, "DiLascio is the correct way to enter this name," that is what I would have said. I am sorry that you guys saw the word 'data' and assumed I was talking about this specific name. I will try to be more specific in the future.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just to say that I understood that TheMadMartian was only using that as an example and not as a fully researched case. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | In hindsight, I probably should have stuck with 'Danny DeVito' as my example...since I used him in my earlier post...to prevent any confusion. Ah well, live and learn.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 599 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
This thread is only three pages.
I'm completely disappointed in you guys.  Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
I'm pretty certain we're talking about Diane DiLascio?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0226721/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_DiLascio
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Diane_DiLascio
http://pipl.com/directory/people/Diane/DiLascio
http://www.tvrage.com/person/id-13970
http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/diane-dilascio/147295
http://www.popstar.com/Diane_DiLascio/
http://www.flixster.com/actor/diane-dilascio Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
You are going to need a heckuva lot more than that, SamuelRichardScott .
Do you have anything such as an email verification, or, better yet, her signing something? (It has to be a polaroid though, as anything else can be manipulated.) Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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You are going to need a heckuva lot more than that, SamuelRichardScott .
Do you have anything such as an email verification, or, better yet, her signing something? (It has to be a polaroid though, as anything else can be manipulated.)
Unfortunately not. I'll try and hold her up at gunpoint and ask, but of course I'll need a signed written statement and video interview along with 30 links to pictures of her so people can verify it's her I'm talking to. Even then, it may not be enough. Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
You better just keep it local, then. You know guys, they either have you on their blocked list or they are mired in deep denial as to the problem your lampooning here. Antares (Working feverishly to progress this thread to 5 nonsensical pages)   |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DarklyNoon: Quote:
It is a tough one Probably that is why the contributor did not mention the change from Dilascio to DiLascio in his notes at all. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it. So "use standard capitalization rules" means "look how the credit wants to be written"? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it.
So "use standard capitalization rules" means "look how the credit wants to be written"? Standard capitalisation is just that. In a lot (most?) of cases, it'll just be the first letter of each name that is capitalised. However if the name isn't originally English then other letters may be capitalised by standard. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | . | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] | | | | Last edited: by bbbbb |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Isn't it the case that [...] that DVDP does not recognize changes in capitalization in names?:
That's a common misconception:
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The DBISAM database engine does distinguish cases.
So it really does matter what we enter - for the database, "Dilascio" and "DiLascio" are not the same. You're confusing this with the fact that the local portion of the software "protects" your local value to be overwritten by whatever capitalization is in the profile you're downloading. And rightly so, because such a (likely unnoticed) change would affect not only that particular profile, but all others in which the same person appears as well:
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For actor names, this operates that way intentionally so that if a profile update comes down it won't automatically change the actor name case.
So if the person isn't in your database yet, you'll get whatever's in the profile you're downloading, but if you have the person in your database already, your local form of capitalization is preserved. Are you sure about this? I would have sworn that a DiLascio (for example) from a new profile would overwrite the Dilascio in an existing profile. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
I would have sworn that a DiLascio (for example) from a new profile would overwrite the Dilascio in an existing profile. It doesn't. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | T!M is correct, it does not. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
However if the name isn't originally English then other letters may be capitalised by standard. The problem with names that aren't originally English is not really about other letters that can be capitalised by standard, but to convert capitalised letters to accentuated letters (é,è,ê, à, ç...). This causes many non linking entries, when people just convert what they see, ignoring totally correct spelling. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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