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What to do when deleted scenes are called outtakes
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorm.cellophane
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So indeed, nobody HAS to watch the special features to determine what they really are. I'm just saying that if someone else comes along who HAS watched the actual special features and has found such a case of a mislabeled feature, then that would make for a valid correction per the rules - not to mention a very welcome one.

Agree. The first contributor would cite the cover or menus as their documentation and in the absence of any other facts, that would be fine. The second contributor would cite the actual content and that would trump the earlier contribution.
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Quoting Woola:
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Rho: I peresume that you too have read the rules, but based on youtr comment i could be wrong.

Skip

Yes, specially the part about outtakes does definitely not match for 'deleted scenes' labeled as 'outtakes' in the menu:
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Footage, generally mistakes, captured during filming, generally humorous. Occasionally, outtakes are scripted (e.g. animated outtakes).

And don't tell me, that the deleted scenes or the main film are not data on the DVD itself and only the menus are. That would be very strange.
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The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.

Please take note that it does not say amything babout the Cover but ONLY the DVD ITSELF

Skip


Sir, you must have a some sort of brain malfunction. If someone points a cow and tells you that; "This is a fine example of moose specimen" do you REALLY think for the rest of your life that cow=moose????

You come bitching on EVERY thread and always community agrees, but you, and ONLY you always disagree. Take a pill or something. If you are already taking one, please get a new doctor.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
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If it walks like a duck...

... then it is a witch - burn it!


Runs!  Hides!  No burning the witch!

On topic - I agree with the majority here.  Many things can be mislabeled.  Just the other day my co-worker filed an X-Box game as a DVD.  That did not make it a DVD, only a mislabeled X-Box game.

We must follow content over labels, for only content gives accurate data.
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The data should be entered as Deleted Scenes with careful documentation explaining why and how that data differs from the DVD menu.
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You people really are an arrogant lot that believes you know more than the people who make the disc. but the surefeur thinks he can correct anything, typos, whatever. This database is eaded for the scarp heap, but not with my help, you will drag there all by yourselfves. You do NOT know more than thepeople who make the fim or the disc, you have NO IDEA why they do what they or whether it is a mistake or not. What a bunch of

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So in essence, Skip, you are saying that in a hypothetical situation, if the cover says French subtitles, the disc says French subtitles, but there are no French subtitles on the disc, only Spanish (which aren't listed anywhere), it is wrong to correct the profile by removing the French subtitles and adding Spanish?
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You people really are an arrogant lot that believes you know more than the people who make the disc. but the surefeur thinks he can correct anything, typos, whatever. This database is eaded for the scarp heap, but not with my help, you will drag there all by yourselfves. You do NOT know more than thepeople who make the fim or the disc, you have NO IDEA why they do what they or whether it is a mistake or not. What a bunch of

Skip


I'm just glad that this place isn't lacking in common sense
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Quoting Woola:
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You people really are an arrogant lot that believes you know more than the people who make the disc. but the surefeur thinks he can correct anything, typos, whatever.


I haven't even posted on this topic... Just an attack to spew hatred. 
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Quoting Woola:
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You people really are an arrogant lot that believes you know more than the people who make the disc. but the surefeur thinks he can correct anything, typos, whatever.


I haven't even posted on this topic... Just an attack to spew hatred. 


Wow.
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So in essence, Skip, you are saying that in a hypothetical situation, if the cover says French subtitles, the disc says French subtitles, but there are no French subtitles on the disc, only Spanish (which aren't listed anywhere), it is wrong to correct the profile by removing the French subtitles and adding Spanish?


That's effectively what I said earlier in the thread. Unless I missed it, I don't think I got a response.
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So in essence, Skip, you are saying that in a hypothetical situation, if the cover says French subtitles, the disc says French subtitles, but there are no French subtitles on the disc, only Spanish (which aren't listed anywhere), it is wrong to correct the profile by removing the French subtitles and adding Spanish?


That's effectively what I said earlier in the thread. Unless I missed it, I don't think I got a response.


That is true. 

I suspect there won't be a (logical) answer, either.
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If we take everything from the cover then my update for Poltergeist II: The Other Side EAN 9-321337-018584 shouldn't/won't be accepted, even though I've documented the Subtitles and Audio Tracks, that are not mentioned on the back cover but are available through the main menu and are on the disc. Even Correcting the English Audio Track, back cover is wrong about it being in 5.1, only stereo. What I'm saying is to take everything from the disc itself, anything else is irrelevant.
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I think we've reached a general consensus at the very least. Everyone (except one) agrees so I think that's how we should treat the situation personally.

Using the menu text is just fine, but digging deeper isn't wrong and if there is an error, then what the feature actually is supersedes what is written in the menus. I would just stress to those contributing such errors to point it out in the notes so future contributers don't accidentally erase it by changing it to what is shown in the menus. 
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OMG, I know cmae, but we follow the menus, and like I said if the menus say outtakes, they are outtakes, if the menus say deleted scenes then thy are deleted scenes. NOTHING else is relevant.

According to bigdaddy they are called Outtakes...sobe it.

Skip


So ok what if in the features menu it said $hity scenes we did not put in the movie. So you have to put that in cause that's what it is called right?
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And if we were to do as woola says than the The Lawnmower Man Collection DVD UPC 794043-132247 would be wrong in the data base too. The cover says the both films are widescreen 16x9 2.4:1 and you go to watch the films there is no widescreen just full screen.... So should I have contributed it as widescreen? The people who make the film or the disc, say it's widescreen. They never make mistakes, they are perfect, like woola.
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