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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Your request
 Thank you Charlie | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Here is how it needs to be done, with todays possibilities
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This is also the way AI was done and approved. The program uses a colon and a space to separate a group role from an individual role. I would use the same in the "nested" group headers for consistency. |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Question -
How many profiles would nesting actually help?
How Many profiles would need more than 2?
The 2 that I have seen A.I. and Minority report, are the only ones that I have actually done with groups of groups.
Just pondering...
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
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Here is how it needs to be done, with todays possibilities
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This is also the way AI was done and approved.
The program uses a colon and a space to separate a group role from an individual role. I would use the same in the "nested" group headers for consistency. I am confused. I must be missing something. I don't recall seeing that. Can you show me? If true, then I would agree. Edit - I actually think I would like that better Charlie | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | You mean more like this  |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
How many profiles would nesting actually help? Films that need two levels i've encountered recently. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes BackPretty WomanBack to the Future 2Quote:
How Many profiles would need more than 2? Haven't seen one of these yet though doubtless some exist. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
You mean more like this
[pic] Yes. Here's an example from one I just finished this afternoon: Quote:
Babies' Voices
Miko Hughes as Sly/Whit (Voice)
Babies' Voices: Carrie
Aaron Spann (Voice)
... Here's Miko's credit:  And here's Aaron's:  | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
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You mean more like this
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Yes. Here's an example from one I just finished this afternoon:
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Babies' Voices
Miko Hughes as Sly/Whit (Voice)
Babies' Voices: Carrie
Aaron Spann (Voice)
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Here's Miko's credit:
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And here's Aaron's:
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I got ya, That didn't even cross my mind, but yes I have seen that |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 |  Posts: 415 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Question -
How many profiles would nesting actually help?
How Many profiles would need more than 2?
The 2 that I have seen A.I. and Minority report, are the only ones that I have actually done with groups of groups.
Just pondering...
Charlie The one I posted earlier was from The Princess Diaries |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
How many profiles would nesting actually help? Thousands. About every second or third profile I audit seems to be affected by this problem. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | The best option in my opinion is to drop the use of group headers for everything that doesn't have a group with separate roles under it. That will eliminate the problem.
Personally, and I stress that this is my opinion, I don't see the need for group headers when there are no group with separate roles. | | | 
The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | | Last edited: by reybr |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
The best option in my opinion is to drop the use of group headers for everything that doesn't have a group with separate roles under it. That will eliminate the problem. It would indeed. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 868 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
The best option in my opinion is to drop the use of group headers for everything that doesn't have a group with separate roles under it. That will eliminate the problem.
Personally, and I stress that this is my opinion, I don't see the need for group headers when there are no group with separate roles. I agree with this completely. I'd prefer to do Minority Report (one example gven earlier) like this: Pre-Crime Tom Cruise as Chief John Anderton Max von Sydow as Director Lamar Burgess Steve Harris as Jad Neal McDonough as Fletcher Patrick Kilpatrick as Knott Jessica Capshaw as Evanna Keith Campbell as Pre-Crime Cops Kirk B. R. Woller as Pre-Crime Cops Klea Scott as Pre-Crime Cops Frank Grillo as Pre-Crime Cops Anna Maria Horsford as Casey Sarah Simmons as Lamar Burgess' Secretary Eugene Osment as Jad's Technician Because if we use the way ChalrieM, while completely according to rules so i'm not criticizing him, in my opinion we are inventing things the credits just don't show. Of course i you could also use Pre-Crime Cop if that decision is made. Paul | | | | Last edited: by paulb_99 |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Or the other option,
Eliminate them for what I call headers, Pre-Crime in this example, and only use them for the grouped roles (Pre-crime Cops), which is the thing they were for to begin with.
I don't understand, the wanting to catch the looks of the credits, because if we are then we don't have the tools to do it. I thought we wanted the data. | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | We do want the data and, in this example, Pre-Crime is part of the data. Not only is it part of the data, but it gives the rest of the data context. This group of people were Pre-Crime, this group were FBi, this group was in the Pre-Cog Chamber, etc. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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