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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I personally don't think documentaries have any cast but that's a matter for a different thread!  Whenever I'm profiling documentaries (I have done quite a few), there's usually two categories I tend to consider as cast: 1) Narrators (usually listed in the end credits) 2) Interviewees (if identified on-screen, e.g. through subtitles). |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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I personally don't think documentaries have any cast but that's a matter for a different thread!
Whenever I'm profiling documentaries (I have done quite a few), there's usually two categories I tend to consider as cast:
1) Narrators (usually listed in the end credits)
2) Interviewees (if identified on-screen, e.g. through subtitles). This is the way I handle them as well, unless the credits actually include a cast list (very rare). | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
People in documentaries tend to be credited on-screen or named by a narrator, but isn't there some dispute as to whether this counts? Unfortunately, the rules are (again) not very clear: Quote:
If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits. The problem comes when there are end credits, AND actors credited elsewhere, such as on-screen. How do you add them? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think the Rules are unclear at all. What deejay says is within the Rules. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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People in documentaries tend to be credited on-screen or named by a narrator, but isn't there some dispute as to whether this counts?
Unfortunately, the rules are (again) not very clear:
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If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits.
The problem comes when there are end credits, AND actors credited elsewhere, such as on-screen. How do you add them? You enter those credited elsewhere first IF they are not in the end credits, then you enter the end credits. Seems pretty straightforward to me. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Really? Maybe you would like to point out where this is written in the rules because I can't seem to find it.  The reason I ask is I have been voted down for entering on-screen credits in the past, saying that I have to mark them as uncredited. Naturally, I refused, since they are in fact credited. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | They were wrong Kino, I think I might understand their logic, but it' s not consistent with the Rules. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Really? Maybe you would like to point out where this is written in the rules because I can't seem to find it.
The reason I ask is I have been voted down for entering on-screen credits in the past, saying that I have to mark them as uncredited. Naturally, I refused, since they are in fact credited. A combination of these two Rules, provides the answer. Quoting the Rules: Quote:
If a film has actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, add these to the list in DVD Profiler before those taken from the end credits.
If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits.[/blockquote | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry to bump this but I wasn't sure about a recent contribution. There have been times when a sequel will show footage from the previous entry, so would actors who appear in them be added to the cast list (as uncredited)? So what is the general consensus and has Ken or Gerri chimed in? | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why do ken or gerris need to weigh in, its in the rules. The footage you are describing is not archive footage, archive footage is typically going to be footage inserted into a film from another source, usually news | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
Sorry to bump this but I wasn't sure about a recent contribution. There have been times when a sequel will show footage from the previous entry, so would actors who appear in them be added to the cast list (as uncredited)? So what is the general consensus and has Ken or Gerri chimed in? I think Back to the Future 2 has this. Another thing is those flashback tv episodes, would all those that appear in flashbacks get an uncredited credit if not listed in the credits? A can of worms, this could open. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lol, just for the record, cubby. Bttf is a bad example, the opening sequence of 2 was redhot due to a change if actress with the exception of the flying car shot. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Lol, just for the record, cubby. Bttf is a bad example, the opening sequence of 2 was redhot due to a change if actress with the exception of the flying car shot. Personally, I think that Claudia Wells was hotter. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Quoting TheMovieman:
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Sorry to bump this but I wasn't sure about a recent contribution. There have been times when a sequel will show footage from the previous entry, so would actors who appear in them be added to the cast list (as uncredited)? So what is the general consensus and has Ken or Gerri chimed in?
I think Back to the Future 2 has this.
Another thing is those flashback tv episodes, would all those that appear in flashbacks get an uncredited credit if not listed in the credits?
A can of worms, this could open. I seem to recall that for TV series flashbacks (which this is, more or less) it wasn't allowed, though I have no clue where that thread is... | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Lol, just for the record, cubby. Bttf is a bad example, the opening sequence of 2 was redhot due to a change if actress with the exception of the flying car shot. Actually I was thinking of Crispin Glover, but just checked the profile and he is credited. But with a credit of George McFly in footage from "Back to th. (rest gets cut off). So yeah, that was a bad example with Glover. But still, what about tv flashback episodes? I think that this was bumped because of a contribution for the latest Underworld movie with scenes from previous films in the series included and the contribution including actors appearing in those scenes. I haven't seen this film so have no idea as to what these uncredited appearances are like. Are they actually inserted into scenes and interacting with the cast of this movie ala Forrest Gump or just flashback scenes? |
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