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FYI - New Unrated Rating for R1 US Profiles
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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Leon: The Professional was released with a rating, but the dvd I have is marked NR, this qualifies for a change to Unrated, yes?


the deluxe edition contains the international cut, not the rated US theatrical cut, so yes you can give that one an "Unrated".
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Thank you!
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I have a NR film...that's what is on the back cover.  However, I'm pretty sure it'd be classified as "adult" as it does contain content not suitable for minors (nudity).  It has adult as one of the genres, but should the rating reflect this?  I don't think it could be Unrated as it specifically has "Not Rated" on the back.


Sorry I missed this one, I would leave that as NR. There's no Unrated on the cover and there's no alternate cut that is rated, so doesn't meet the criteria. To be honest, I don't know why it even has "adult" as a genre. 
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@northbloke: The whole thing is performed nude.  No clothing at all.  Not a sex scene in it, but it was designed for adults to watch, not children. It's called Naked Boys Singing!. I haven't changed this one yet, may just leave it for someone else to make the decision.  Though, I do think NR would place it too low on the rating system.
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I'd mark that one as Unrated locally and not mess with the online.  Or just contribute it.  I have a hard time believing that title is owned by many people so even if you do submit it, I doubt you'll get much feedback one way or another.
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Maybe you need to refresh your Online Profile List?

So if I don't refresh the list there no chance that this non-sense appear in my version of DVDP, right?
No offense, but I prefer to see a real workaround on this before corupting my database with this...
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@northbloke: The whole thing is performed nude.  No clothing at all.  Not a sex scene in it, but it was designed for adults to watch, not children. It's called Naked Boys Singing!. I haven't changed this one yet, may just leave it for someone else to make the decision.  Though, I do think NR would place it too low on the rating system.


I actually thought it might be that title when you first described it. Mark it "Unrated" locally if you want it to filter highly, but there's nothing in your description which matches the Unrated description for the online.
There are also plenty of other films that I wouldn't let children watch but I would never class them as "adult". Would you let children watch Cannibal Holocaust or the Evil Dead?
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Nope, I wouldn't. But that is why I brought it here to be discussed since I wasn't sure it merited the label.  It's not "adult" in it's content, but in its viewing and while one is fine at NR, the other one isn't.  I think I'll just change it in my local so it doesn't come up with the lower ratings.  I'll let the other owners (I know I've gotten a few votes when I made a couple changes a long time ago, so there are a few people with this one other than me) make a decision on this one.
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I'll let the other owners (I know I've gotten a few votes when I made a couple changes a long time ago, so there are a few people with this one other than me) make a decision on this one.


If I've misread you and got this wrong, I apologise but this is something I was worried would happen when the Unrated rating was introduced. In a way, you are making a ratings decision and marking a title as "Unrated" because you feel it deserves it. And that is something I strongly disagree with. Of course you're welcome to mark it unrated for yourself. But when you change a profile and submit it just because you think it deserves to be marked as "unrated" (and again I apologise if that's not what you mean) then that's going down a dark road. At the very least it could lead to constant ping-ponging of data if someone else disagrees with you.
Unfortunately either by accident or design the US ratings system is optional. That means regardless of content a product does not have to have a rating, whether its hardcore horror or hardcore Dora. It's not up to us to decide on the online's behalf what that rating should have been - it's up to the individual.
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Actually, I was asking if I should mark it "Adult" as that is a rating that we can use.  I think it is between NR, which is the rating on the back and adult.  I don't think we should use Unrated in this case, either.  But I do think this needs to have a distinguishing feature, so that when people filter for rating, this doesn't pop up when they ARE looking for Dora the Explorer.
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Actually, I was asking if I should mark it "Adult" as that is a rating that we can use.  I think it is between NR, which is the rating on the back and adult.  I don't think we should use Unrated in this case, either.  But I do think this needs to have a distinguishing feature, so that when people filter for rating, this doesn't pop up when they ARE looking for Dora the Explorer.

I actually think the rules cover this situation.  It doesn't matter what if the case says 'Not Rated' or 'Unrated', we "Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films."
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Would you let children watch Cannibal Holocaust or the Evil Dead?


I would... but only 'cause I'm a sick bastard and feel that children should be corrupted sooner rather than later... plus, those movies totally kick all sorts of a** and should be seen by everyone at least once, no matter what age!!!

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And I have to say, I checked, and I'm actually fairly happy that this wasn't applied to Canadian locality profiles as well.

Not because I'm against Unrated, far from it, I think it's introduction is a good idea (still could work out a few bugs though), but because Canadian locality dvd's, despite the actual film being released in an unrated edition by the production studios or companies involved, still have a specific Canadian rating (generally with rating details) applied to them. I don't think it would be right to have that rating overruled by an Unrated rating simply because it's on the cover.

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I actually think the rules cover this situation.  It doesn't matter what if the case says 'Not Rated' or 'Unrated', we "Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films."


Except the rules don't tell us what an "Adult film" is. If it's "anything you wouldn't show a kid" that's going to affect a hell of a lot of profiles!
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I actually think the rules cover this situation.  It doesn't matter what if the case says 'Not Rated' or 'Unrated', we "Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films."


Except the rules don't tell us what an "Adult film" is. If it's "anything you wouldn't show a kid" that's going to affect a hell of a lot of profiles!


This is what I was talking about earlier... does "Adult" mean just the XXX adult movies? What about stuff like Playboy Videos and Girls Gone Wild... is that adult enough to be considered "Adult"? What about horror with a load of gore? I wouldn't show most horror movies to kids... but I wouldn't consider it needing an Adult rating on them. Though I personally would consider stuff like that play talked about earlier, Playboy videos and Girls Gone Wild as Adult. But that is me personally... what standard do we follow for contributions?
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The BBFC uses this definition for "adult" works:

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Sex works (works whose primary purpose is sexual arousal or stimulation) are likely to be passed only in the adult categories.


And that's the one I follow - if it's not designed to turn you on, it doesn't get "Adult".

In this example, the intent of "Naked Boys Singing" is not arousal, but more humour, so I wouldn't class it as an adult work.
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