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Creating my own movie database with titles/cast/crew and everything |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Mark. As usual, you put it better than I did.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: August 7, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting movie_madness:
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But what if you don't have that particular DVD? If you only have the Gone with the Wind Blu-ray, then the documentary won't be in your DVDP collection at all.
That depends on how it is included in the set. If it comes on its own disc, then it can be profiled under the Bonus Feature Film rule. Again, not owning this set, I don't know which it is.
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Your rationale for not wanting to hear audio commentaries is just too bizarre so I'll just leave it at that.
So, because you don't agree with me you are going to leave it at an insult?  Let me be clear here, I watch a film to enjoy *gasp* the film. If somone wants to tell me about the film in a featurette, I am fine with that, but I do not want to listen to someone talk while I am watching the film. I don't care who they are or what they have to say. I won't go so far as to call your enjoyment of listening to someone speak during a movie bizzare, but I have tried it and it isn't for me.
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Ditto your non-answer answer of "You would think, but you would be wrong." You seem to have unorthodox views in general so let's leave it at that.
Seriously? So let me see if I understand you here...because I don't like listening to audio commentaries, don't want to profile them or featurettes, my views are unorthodox? Talk about bizarre rationale. Yes, I honestly think your view is a little bizarre, but no insult was intended so please calm down. First of all, we ALL don't like people talking in a theater. But please think again if that scenario is really comparable and relevant to the scenario of listening to audio commentaries. First, audio commentaries are made for those who ALREADY have watched the movie. Second, people talking impolitely in a theater isn't really the same thing as a commentator speaking passionately, informatively, and entertainingly about the movie, which is something we welcome. I just think it bizarre to equate the two wildly different experiences together. Now, do you listen to audio commentaries of silent films? |
| | Registered: August 7, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
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As i already tried to explain. Is there interest in more specificity than we gave now relative to bonus content...yes. But in the 12 years I have worked with profiler you are the very first to make such a fuss over what level of specificity, I have never seen anyone go crazy about capturing all bonus content data. 12 years is a long time, shortly after the program started. More info is good, but you are overboard with it, and especially IMDB I dont trust any of theirvdata for accuracy, it is all user interpreted and manipulated. Quote:
The same goes with bonus material. I used to go through everything! And after thousands of wasted hours, I've come to the conclusion that most bonus stuff is crap. I watch every bonus for a few seconds and if it doesn't interest me I skip to the next. Yes, most EPK-style featurettes are crap. I guess my collection may not be the norm. I have very few typical Hollywood stuff. I collect mostly classic films, Criterion, Kino, and other boutique label stuff. And the supplements made by these publishers are almost always good (not just good, but *valuable*) and I usually watch them all. Hence, my desire to catalog them. That may also explain why so few people have requested this in your experience. I may have more of this kind of discs than most DVDP members. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting movie_madness: Quote:
Yes, I honestly think your view is a little bizarre, but no insult was intended so please calm down. First of all, we ALL don't like people talking in a theater. But please think again if that scenario is really comparable and relevant to the scenario of listening to audio commentaries. I don't have to think again, talking is talking. Quote:
First, audio commentaries are made for those who ALREADY have watched the movie. That may be the intent but, as I have already explained, when I watch a film...even one I have seen before...I watch it for the film. Quote:
Second, people talking impolitely in a theater isn't really the same thing as a commentator speaking passionately, informatively, and entertainingly about the movie, which is something we welcome. It is something you welcome, it is not something we welcome. I don't care how passionate, informative or entertaining the commentary is, it is still not welcome while I am watching the film. During a featurette, sure, but not during the actual film. When I watch a movie, it is all about the movie. Audio commentaries, in my opinion, just detract from the movie. Quote:
I just think it bizarre to equate the two wildly different experiences together. That's because you see them as two wildly different experiences, I don't. As I said, talking is talking and I don't want to listen to it during the film as it hinders, not enhances, my movie watching experience. I don't even listen to the commentaries during deleted scenes. Prior to the xcenes, yes. During, not at all. Quote:
Now, do you listen to audio commentaries of silent films? Every silent film I own, I own on 8mm, so there aren't any commentaries but, to answer your question as best I can, I would not listen to them even for a silent film as I would probably find it distracting. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: August 7, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not to digress any further, but if you think it is a distraction, then try listening to an audio commentary WITHOUT looking at the movie. Just listen to it as if it were an audio-only recording. Why go to such length to deny yourself the pleasure of some of the most engaging narrations ever recorded by people who love talking about movies, our passion.
The 2003 Milestone/Image DVD of silent classic "The Phantom of the Opera" has one of the best audio commentaries I've ever listened to, recorded by Phantom expert Scott MacQueen. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting movie_madness: Quote:
Not to digress any further, but if you think it is a distraction, then try listening to an audio commentary WITHOUT looking at the movie. Just listen to it as if it were an audio-only recording. Why go to such length to deny yourself the pleasure of some of the most engaging narrations ever recorded by people who love talking about movies, our passion.
The 2003 Milestone/Image DVD of silent classic "The Phantom of the Opera" has one of the best audio commentaries I've ever listened to, recorded by Phantom expert Scott MacQueen. What lengths am I going to? I simply don't turn them on. As for denying myself the pleasure, I assure you, I am not as u don't consider them pleasurable. I understand that you enjoy them, but they just aren't my thing. I would rather spend my time watching the movies, our passion, instead of listening to people talk about them. Why you can't seem to accept that is beyond me. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | movie_madness, just give it up, it will only drive you crazy trying to rationalize with some of the people on here. They have proven themselves time and time again to have the most bizarre and confusing views on things. It will drive you completely crazy trying to debate in a rational and civil manner with these types. You are wasting your time and energy which are better spent on more constructive things.  | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: August 7, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting movie_madness:
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Not to digress any further, but if you think it is a distraction, then try listening to an audio commentary WITHOUT looking at the movie. Just listen to it as if it were an audio-only recording. Why go to such length to deny yourself the pleasure of some of the most engaging narrations ever recorded by people who love talking about movies, our passion.
The 2003 Milestone/Image DVD of silent classic "The Phantom of the Opera" has one of the best audio commentaries I've ever listened to, recorded by Phantom expert Scott MacQueen.
What lengths am I going to? I simply don't turn them on. As for denying myself the pleasure, I assure you, I am not as u don't consider them pleasurable. I understand that you enjoy them, but they just aren't my thing. I would rather spend my time watching the movies, our passion, instead of listening to people talk about them. Why you can't seem to accept that is beyond me. I can accept someone not saying they don't find audio commentaries pleasurable, but saying you don't like them because they remind you of people talking in a theater is why I called it bizarre in the first place. If you "never listen to audio commentaries" as you said in an earlier post, how would you know they are not pleasurable? Keep an open mind and don't be afraid to try some new things you haven't tried before. The same way I kept an open mind, looked for an alternative to DVDP, thought it would be hard and thus delayed doing it for years, but finally got something accomplished. Now that I've found the segway back to the original topic, let me just say that I've tried the Cast & Crew Edit 2 plugin and it seems to work fairly well. It requires copying & pasting cast and crew movie by movie, which isn't as speedy as my method. But at least I have a way to import IMDb data to my existing DVDP entries that have blank cast and crew. I'm still going to have to rely on my self-made database for the thousands of movies that have never been on home video and probably never gonna to be. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Never say never, movie. Have you learned nothing from 007.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting movie_madness: Quote:
If you "never listen to audio commentaries" as you said in an earlier post, how would you know they are not pleasurable?
Keep an open mind and don't be afraid to try some new things you haven't tried before. Don't know whether or not you meant it as such, but that came off as quite condescending. Perhaps you should try reading what people actually write. While I did say I never listen to them, I didn't say I never have. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said, and I quote, " I won't go so far as to call your enjoyment of listening to someone speak during a movie bizzare, but I have tried it and it isn't for me." So, yes, I kept an open mind and did try them and know, for a fact, that they are not pleasurable. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to agree with the Martian.
I to do not find audio commentaries very enjoyable. I would also compare it to people talking in a theater (not on subject matter, but to the distraction of the movie).
When I watch a movie, it is for the movie. I find that I also do not watch much in the way of special features (short of the gag/blooper reels). I will at times watch the extra "shorts" that come with animated films. As far the making of and such, they are not my thing. My son on the other hand, has to watch every extra thing on the disc. He enjoys the extras, and I am glad that he finds enjoyment with it. My wife likes the bloopers and sometimes "The Making of" featurettes.
I you think that is bizarre, so be it.
Charlie |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have only watched some of the commentaries that accompany Looney Toons shorts. While a few of them were informative and interesting, many were simply chatty. I have never gotten around to watching a full film with the commentary on. I keep meaning to, but I have so many unwatched films that if I'm rewatching something, it's because that film is a particular favorite - and in that case, I want to watch the film, not listen to someone talk about it.
I do tend to try to watch any short extras that happen to come on a disc - interviews, featurettes, short films, feature trailers, etc. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Don't know whether or not you meant it as such, but that came off as quite condescending. No, it didn't. Not in the slightest. Your posts, on the other hand... | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are some really good commentaries, and some really bad ones.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre has a really good one with Tobe Hooper and Gunnar Hansen. Day of the Dead has a pretty good one with George Romero.
William Friedkin doesn't do commentaries very well, he tends to just describe the action that is happening on screen.
Some commentaries have moderators that try to keep the conversation on point for the listeners' benefit. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Gotta love it love it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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