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The Dark Knight Rises: Aspect Ratio?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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so I predict a million pages of retarded posting.


It's like you are psychic. 


And yet you still get annoyed when you get charged £1.50 a minute to phone me?


Actually there're nowhere near a million pages yet; there’re only three at the point I’m typing this, which actually represents 0.0003% of one million.  It saddens me that such a clearly inaccurate statement could be made here.  If you continue with your inaccurate and ‘brain in neutral’ behaviour I'll have to rate the incorrect, off-topic posts negative, and summon the forum moderators.

PS Can I be an "undiscovered comic genius" now please?
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Bo****ks!  It's just become four pages, thus undermining the entire basis of my previous comments...
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
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Unfortunately Spiky, you've long been discovered as comic genius ever since I started reading your posts.
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Quoting SpikyCactus:
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so I predict a million pages of retarded posting.


It's like you are psychic. 


And yet you still get annoyed when you get charged £1.50 a minute to phone me?


Actually there're nowhere near a million pages yet; there’re only three at the point I’m typing this, which actually represents 0.0003% of one million.  It saddens me that such a clearly inaccurate statement could be made here.  If you continue with your inaccurate and ‘brain in neutral’ behaviour I'll have to rate the incorrect, off-topic posts negative, and summon the forum moderators.

PS Can I be an "undiscovered comic genius" now please?

Maybe we need some rules, so that those inaccurate data won't get into the forum...
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The should have released the entire movie in the IMAX format that way I wouldn't have those stupid black bars on my TV.
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The should have released the entire movie in the IMAX format that way I wouldn't have those stupid black bars on my TV.

That's egoistic!
Please think of those with a 21:9 screen. they are always so unhappy with this old-fashioned 16:9 material. 
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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The should have released the entire movie in the IMAX format that way I wouldn't have those stupid black bars on my TV.

That's egoistic!
Please think of those with a 21:9 screen. they are always so unhappy with this old-fashioned 16:9 material. 



TDK isn't bad but I can't stand watching older stuff where the black bars on the side, they should use cgi or something to fill them in!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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Question from left field:

Is anyone working on a profile for the Target digibook version, or has anyone submitted one that just hasn't been loaded yet? If not I'll put it on my to do list if I have some time tomorrow, if so I'll wait for your fine work.

Oh yeah, are the 2.4 scenes all matted from 1.78, or are 1.78 cropped from 2.4? I only saw it in normal theater where it was 2.4 the whole way. Was it 1.78 the whole way in IMAX, or are just certain scenes 1.78 and the rest 2.4 when in an IMAX theater? This does kinda affect my take on the aspect ratio debate.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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IMAX is roughly 1.4 and composed fairly open because the top and bottom of the screen should be out of your field of view. the 1.78 and 2.4 are both cropped from that.
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IMAX is roughly 1.4 and composed fairly open because the top and bottom of the screen should be out of your field of view. the 1.78 and 2.4 are both cropped from that.

The whole film wasn't filmed on IMAX. 2.4 parts hasn't been cropped from that.
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IMAX is roughly 1.4 and composed fairly open because the top and bottom of the screen should be out of your field of view. the 1.78 and 2.4 are both cropped from that.

I am sorry, but that is not correct.  As with the previous films, parts were filmed using standard cameras and parts were filmed using IMAX cameras.
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Why would film be done this way? Was it used a a special effect and was it really noticeable on screen?

Edit: I noticed TheMadMartain'w reponse: "As with the previous films, parts were filmed using standard cameras and parts were filmed using IMAX cameras."

If previous films were done the same way, how were they entered into profiler?
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IMAX is roughly 1.4 and composed fairly open because the top and bottom of the screen should be out of your field of view. the 1.78 and 2.4 are both cropped from that.

I am sorry, but that is not correct.  As with the previous films, parts were filmed using standard cameras and parts were filmed using IMAX cameras.


What I meant is that the parts shot in IMAX were cropped to 2.4 in non-IMAX theaters and 1.78 on the disc.
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Question from left field:

Is anyone working on a profile for the Target digibook version, or has anyone submitted one that just hasn't been loaded yet? If not I'll put it on my to do list if I have some time tomorrow, if so I'll wait for your fine work.

I was wondering the same thing. I'm going to at least make an attempt to do a coverscan of the lenticular cover. I'm feeling a little under the weather, so that'll probably be all I have the energy to do. Speaking of the cover, I was planning on scanning the cardboard thingy for the rear (since it has the UPC and content info on it as opposed to the blank bat logo on the actual digibook). For the front cover, I'm assuming I would also keep the cardboard on it so it would include the "Combo pack / Blu-ray+DVD+Ultraviolet" banner...correct?
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Quoting bigdaddyhorse: For the front cover, I'm assuming I would also keep the cardboard on it so it would include the "Combo pack / Blu-ray+DVD+Ultraviolet" banner...correct?


Yeah, that's how all my similar discs are done. I've been having most trouble with scans so if I get a chance I'll do the cast/crew. I'll have to work from the dvd as my computer is dead and BD plays no more.

So it sounds like basically the BD breaks down to the best of both worlds. Half (roughly) is filmed in 70mm IMAX, half with standard 35mm. While the standard is probably matted to 2.40 (I don't see those anamorphic visual bends like with John Carpenter films that are filmed full out 2.40 anamorphic film) but is then cropped from that for IMAX, while the IMAX is matted for standard theaters. So we never miss anything this way right? Cool. I was slightly annoyed that this and the last Bat film have been like this, but am getting over it. I'd still prefer it stick to a ratio, but feel better after the answers.

As for the OP and AR. If filmed with separate systems in different ratios then we should probably use what is used more, in this case 2.4. It's what was used for the last flick also, at least the version I have (batpod).
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Why would film be done this way? Was it used a a special effect and was it really noticeable on screen?

It was done to give certain scenes more impact and, yes, it is really noticeable on screen.  If you went to the IMAX screening, or watch it on blu-ray, most of the film is letterboxed then, for the IMAX scenes, the picture will fill the entire screen.
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Edit: I noticed TheMadMartain'w reponse: "As with the previous films, parts were filmed using standard cameras and parts were filmed using IMAX cameras."

If previous films were done the same way, how were they entered into profiler?

Off the top of my head, all the Dark Knight films were done this way as was Transformers and Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol.  Funny, now that you mention it, I don't remember this being an issue for any of them.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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