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TEST: What's your political preference? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
DO THE TEST
My top 3:
1. John Edwards (D)
2. Hillary Clinton (D)
3. Barack Obama (D) My bottom three. It's seems to me in s country of more 300 million, that ought to be abler to find a better bunch to run for president. Hillary Clinton's daughter sidled up to a marine and ask what worried him the most, he said: "Osama, Obama and yo mama." | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
| | Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | I guess I'll add my own results:
John Edwards (D)
Hillary Clinton (D)
Barack Obama (D)
Rudy Giuliani (R)
Mitt Romney (R)
Fred Thompson (R)
John McCain (R)
Mike Huckabee (R)
I'm a little surprised at Mitt Romney's spot. He's the candidate whom I least would like to see in the White House.
KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 51 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not really surprising:
John Edwards (D)
Barack Obama (D)
Hillary Clinton (D)
My personal preference would be Obama. | | | Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience.
Wir gegen die Gier - Joseph Weizenbaum (1923 - 2008):
Nichts wird unsere Kinder und Kindeskinder vor einer irdischen Hölle retten.
Es sei denn: Wir organisieren den Widerstand gegen die Gier des globalen Kapitalismus. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
Quote:
DO THE TEST
My top 3:
1. John Edwards (D)
2. Hillary Clinton (D)
3. Barack Obama (D)
My bottom three.
It's seems to me in s country of more 300 million, that ought to be abler to find a better bunch to run for president.
Hillary Clinton's daughter sidled up to a marine and ask what worried him the most, he said: "Osama, Obama and yo mama." What worries me the most is that an other republican continues to show little respect for other cultures, sexual preference, poor/sick people and our natural environment. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's a bit harsh Martin!
I don't know how you managed to read all that into Srehtims' joke? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 693 |
| | Posted: | | | | Her's mine:
Barack Obama (D)
Hillary Clinton (D)
John McCain (R)
Rudy Giuliani (R) | | | | October 12th, 1985. Tonight, a comedian died in New York. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
Quoting Srehtims:
Quote:
Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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DO THE TEST
My top 3:
1. John Edwards (D)
2. Hillary Clinton (D)
3. Barack Obama (D)
My bottom three.
It's seems to me in s country of more 300 million, that ought to be abler to find a better bunch to run for president.
Hillary Clinton's daughter sidled up to a marine and ask what worried him the most, he said: "Osama, Obama and yo mama."
What worries me the most is that an other republican continues to show little respect for other cultures, sexual preference, poor/sick people and our natural environment. 1) Sexual Preference is NOT a guaranteed right granted in our Constitution, nor should it be. It is a personal and private choice, whatever it is, and I don't care what it is, just don't stick it my face. The supposed rights that are denied to "gays" are fictitious and are handled quite nicely thank you very much. 2) Respect for other cultures, hmmm a very sore topic with me and one I choose not go into, except to say that from my point of view it is other cultures that are not only intolerant and disrespectful but in some cases downright ungrateful. 3) Poor and sick People. The United States has the BEST medical system in the world, that is not to say it is perfect and cannot be made better. But the answer is NOT National Health Care, everywhere in the world that such a system has been tried it can only be branded as too expensive and a failure. Talk about lack of concern for the poor and the sick, get in line and wait for months to get a Doctor's appointment, and if you die waiting....oh well...unless you are RICH enough to be able to travel to the United States and take advantage of our health care system...which people do...in DROVES. 4) Natural Environment. Have you ever been to the United States...I doubt it. I can remember when our environmental was a true wreck, but it is now one cleanest in the world and getting better all the time. You want to blame someone for pollution look to Red China, whose economy at the present time is growing very rapidly, and there pollution rate is MANY time that of the US. You want to bash the US, you better bring a bag lunch, because this user is far better informed than you might think. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
1) Sexual Preference is NOT a guaranteed right granted in our Constitution, nor should it be. It is a personal and private choice, whatever it is, and I don't care what it is, just don't stick it my face.
The supposed rights that are denied to "gays" are fictitious and are handled quite nicely thank you very much.
2) Respect for other cultures, hmmm a very sore topic with me and one I choose not go into, except to say that from my point of view it is other cultures that are not only intolerant and disrespectful but in some cases downright ungrateful.
3) Poor and sick People. The United States has the BEST medical system in the world, that is not to say it is perfect and cannot be made better. But the answer is NOT National Health Care, everywhere in the world that such a system has been tried it can only be branded as too expensive and a failure. Talk about lack of concern for the poor and the sick, get in line and wait for months to get a Doctor's appointment, and if you die waiting....oh well...unless you are RICH enough to be able to travel to the United States and take advantage of our health care system...which people do...in DROVES.
4) Natural Environment. Have you ever been to the United States...I doubt it. I can remember when our environmental was a true wreck, but it is now one cleanest in the world and getting better all the time. You want to blame someone for pollution look to Red China, whose economy at the present time is growing very rapidly, and there pollution rate is MANY time that of the US. Now this is a bait I'm very tempted to take, but I don't think the Invelos forum is the appropriate place for political or ideological debates. Quote:
You want to bash the US, you better bring a bag lunch, because this user is far better informed than you might think. To quote one of your fellow citizens, David Milch (creator of NYPD Blue, Deadwood): Quote:
I'm a big admirer of our country. And I admire it so much that I love to chronicle its shortcomings and its disasters and its unfairnesses and abberations, because I think that's the way you testify the love. I wanna glorify America and my idea of how to glorify is to show it whole as best I can. I believe that it withstands that scrutiny and so I look at it hard and that's a joy. | | | | Matthias | | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with him Mathias. I don't know if you are familiar with this old saw. But it reminds me of it.
I can call my sister a b, but if you do then we are going to go at it.
I know very well my country's shortcomings and in the right place and the right time I address them vigorously and very loudly, as some of my friends on Capitol Hill would more than likely offer testimony too, some of them hate to see me coming. But that's in the family, as it were.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you Skip for enforcing my believes in the democratic party and for sharing the republican view. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 235 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
3) Poor and sick People. The United States has the BEST medical system in the world, that is not to say it is perfect and cannot be made better. But the answer is NOT National Health Care, everywhere in the world that such a system has been tried it can only be branded as too expensive and a failure. Talk about lack of concern for the poor and the sick, get in line and wait for months to get a Doctor's appointment, and if you die waiting....oh well...unless you are RICH enough to be able to travel to the United States and take advantage of our health care system...which people do...in DROVES. Wow, I can see that we disagree on a lot of things, but this I just have to comment on this. Yes, the medical system in the US is excellent if a) You have coverage and b) If your insurance company acknowledges that you have coverage. And the word RICH that you use is exactly the keyword here. I'm so glad that we have an expert on the forum who seen so many medical systems in the world that he can not only declare the best in the world but also declare national health care in general a failure. I live in a country where we have one of these "failed" systems. If I call my doctor today, I have a (free) appointment with my doctor this week and that goes everyone in Denmark. If I need to go to the hospital, we go right away (again free, no questions asked) and get treated. It's true that there's some waiting for some treatments, but EVERYONE gets treated no matter how much money they have, what insurances they have or what mood their insurance company are in when they call. To me, that's job one of a health care system and that does not happen in the US. I would never trade national health care a system based on personal insurance. | | | | DVD Profiler på Dansk | | | | Last edited: by mikl |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
3) Poor and sick People. The United States has the BEST medical system in the world, that is not to say it is perfect and cannot be made better. But the answer is NOT National Health Care, everywhere in the world that such a system has been tried it can only be branded as too expensive and a failure. Talk about lack of concern for the poor and the sick, get in line and wait for months to get a Doctor's appointment, and if you die waiting....oh well...unless you are RICH enough to be able to travel to the United States and take advantage of our health care system...which people do...in DROVES. If you're e.g. seriously injured and need treatment right away, you get treatment right away. You can get to a doctor no problem, but if you need surgery AND your in a position to wait, you will wait, but never more then 6 months. If you cant wait, you will get surgery right away. You always have the option to get to a private clinic, if you dont want to wait. The government still pays most of the bill. I pay, according to that list posted by Astrakan, over 2 times less then a US citizen for the health care. Anyway if Universal Health Care is so bad, why are individual states and citys in US going to adopt it?  | | | | Last edited: by whispering |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | This topic was good and fun at the beginning. Climb down from your soap boxes as this is DVD Profiler, not a political debating forum. Please | | |  |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | As long as the thread does not deteriorate into another display of name calling I don't dee anything wrong with a discussion about something NOT DVD related. So far, the exchange of arguments has been civilized (in comparison to former events, the behavior has been even excellent so far).
This might actually be a good chance to test the newfound discipline of the community towards each other. | | | | Lutz |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm agreeing with Darxon on this one, yes the topic started off light-hearted but as long as it remains civil I see no problem with letting it progress into a political discussion.
Especially when you get posts like Skip's that really need responding to!
Skip, you may think you're well informed, but believe me, I think you need to do a bit more research.
1) Sexuality is not a choice. People may choose how to deal with their sexuality, but they don't choose their sexuality itself. I don't know what's in your constitution, but if it isn't then having the right to live your life without fear of discrimination or persecution should be in there.
2) I'd like to know which cultures you believe should show more gratitude. Respect for cultures should not be a quid pro quo. Even if someone shows no respect for your culture doesn't mean you (plural) should disrespect their culture.
3) The US medical system may be good (for those that can afford it), but I seriously doubt it's the best in the world. In 2000 the World Health Organisation ranked the US's health care 37th (France and Italy took the top 2 spots). Has that much changed in 7 years?
4) If the US has one of the cleanest environments in the world, why has your government still not ratified the Kyoto Protocol? Something that even "Red" China has done. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 235 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You want to bash the US, you better bring a bag lunch, because this user is far better informed than you might think.
Right... Let's see what we have learned from Skip in the last couple of pages, shall we?  1. The Socialistic system is a failure (yes, the scandinavian countries will colapse any day now). The unemployment rate in Denmark is about as low as it has ever been. Latest numbers show an unemployment rate of 2.8%. In 2007 we had a state surplus of 15 billion dollars (5.5 inhabitants). How's the American economy doing, Skip? I heard something about a small state deficit but that must have been somewhere else 2. The US health care system is the best in the world. National health care systems are a failure. 55 million people in the US are without health insurance: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhis/earlyrelease/insur200706.pdf It is predicted that roughly 18,000 Americans will die this year because they are uninsured: http://www.iom.edu/?id=19175 See northbloke's point 3. 3. The United States is one of the cleanest countries in the world. If you say so, Skip: http://www.vexen.co.uk/USA/pollution.html#Pollution | | | | DVD Profiler på Dansk |
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