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Is skip voted out the building or not? (Locked)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting skipnet50:
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And herein lies the problem, Unicus. From my point of view, I am treated far worse and put up with more stuff than I have ever given to ANY uiser. So be careful where you point your fingers. It is all to easy to fall into the trap of being judgemetal, Unicus, which is just one reason why I cast very few votes Positive or Negative, I am NOT qualified to judge another person or his behavior.

Skip


I know what your point of view is.  But you have to accept that other people do not share that point of view.  That is all I was saying.  Please stop looking for attacks where none exists...or did you miss the last line of my post? 

Edit:  The exchange between you and surfeur51 makes my point better than I did.  From his point of view, you are the bad guy.  From your point of view, he is.  From the outside, looking in, you both have blood on your hands.  Rather than worrying about who drew first blood, then responding in kind, why not try a little civil discourse? 
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All should take a deep breath 

We are a global community and that's the problem: we have different senses of humour, different pain barriers concernig good or bad jokes and of course political opinions. But  the most common denominator ist respect to each other. This implies the necessity to think about the impact of our postings to others. I would never allege that anybody in the forums deliberately offends others. Mostly it's only a simple misunderstanding what escalates in the heat of the battle.

I made a mistake in an early posting as well. I thought I made a good joke, but in fact it was considered as an insult. I have never a problem to apologize when I make a mistake. So I did and it was accepted.

Why don't we all make a clean "reboot" of our behaviour and start again?

If you point your finger at someone, remember there are 3 more pointing at you!

My 2 cent!

BTW: IMHO it's absolutely inappropriate to give red points in this thread. I do not see anybody here who deserves it. I can't see (even from an objective view) any offending or malicious postings here. But some voters may look for a fly in the ointment to get rid of the daily red points allotment?!
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Did I throw a rock at Yves, in this thread, Unicus. No I did not, did I mention him in this thread, No I have not. So exactly who is the instigator? Not me, pal. His comment does not lead to civil discourse, any more than Gunnar's does, which is also inflammatory. Does he ever stop to think hmmm, maybe i am part of the problem. I don't think so. Do you Unicus, no I don't think so. Do I see you being EQUALLY critical of users and their CRASS behavior...no, I don't think so. In fact quite the contrary they by and large get a pass on their behavior.

That is the single largest reason fro my decision, the rampant hypocrisy here is more than I can deal with, Unicus. And you are right at the top of that list, BUT take heart you aren't alone.

What I see by and large is we must make Skip behave, we must ALL jump on Skip because he doesn't care how anybody else feels. Whoa, you mean Skip actually has feelings too, Wow!!!! If you care not about mine then trust me I don't and won't care about yours. The number of users that have been driven away, not by me, but they have left because they have seen the hypocrisy heer, is FAR more than I could ever even think about driving away. I am honest and you will KNOW where I stand and how I feel. There are people i will miss interaction, though I am sure i will still see them in PM land, but there are others who will not be missed at all.

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Kahless:

You made a joke, now i have to go lok for it. You have said nothing that I considered insulting.

Nope, no insult there.

Skip
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Kahless:

You made a joke, now i have to go lok for it. You have said nothing that I considered insulting.

Nope, no insult there.

Skip


With my example I was referring to another thread about half year ago. The reputation system was not active at this time. I think I deserved many red points for my failed joke.

Anyway, thank's for your support 
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Here is my essential problem certain users, rather than just explaining why the think they are right, take the position that it is self-evident that theya re right and anyoen who questions them is a trouble maker.

For the record, I didn't leave because of Skip, though that didn't help.  I left because I quit buying DVDs.  Then I got a Blu-Ray player.
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This whole thread is pathetic and embarrassing.

So what if a user decides to take a break - the world will still keep spinning.
I am not in to these attention seeking performances and grandoise statements in a forum, reminds me of my kids when they were small and acting spoilt and not getting their own way. And having been here a few years I've seen it all before.

Let's grow up a bit, no man is bigger than the programme or the database, and we should be discussing more relevant matters on this forum related to our hobby, not massaging egos or exchanging insults like playground cissies.

Richard.
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From my point of view, I am treated far worse and put up with more stuff than I have ever given to ANY uiser.

If that is true - and I'm not saying that it is - did you ever stop to wonder why this is happening? If so many people here are jerks, why are they only targeting you, Skip?

Did you ever stop to think "Hm, maybe I'm part of the problem"?

Skip PM:d me saying "Thank you for proving my point, Gunnar. Your first and only post in that thread is that of a total JERK and you wonder why I sanp at you".

Well, I didn't mean to be a jerk. Now, english isn't my first language, but I believe I master it well enough not to come off like a jerk unknowingly. Then again, I might be wrong.

Does anyone else think that I was being a jerk when I suggested that Skip should do a little soul searching? If that is the general opinion I shall gladly offer a public apology to Skip.
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And sorry to say, but if he has 160 negative votes and still allowed to post 20+ messages a day, either he is immuned from the whole process already, or the bar is set so high that it doesn't matter how many negatives votes you get it's not going to matter anyway. 


...or maby the negative votes are monitored, and degrading anyones reputation is made by a person not a computer, i.e. if you rate one of skips post negative when there was nothing said to give a negative rate, it wount have any effect.
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...or maby the negative votes are monitored, and degrading anyones reputation is made by a person not a computer, i.e. if you rate one of skips post negative when there was nothing said to give a negative rate, it wount have any effect.


Yes, maybe:

"In addition to monitoring the forums, administrators will monitor rating submissions. Negative ratings wihout cause will be removed and may result in submitter rating reduction and/or rating permission removal."

I think, admins will have a lot of work in this thread to remove negatives without cause. 
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This whole thread is pathetic and embarrassing.

So what if a user decides to take a break - the world will still keep spinning.
I am not in to these attention seeking performances and grandoise statements in a forum, reminds me of my kids when they were small and acting spoilt and not getting their own way. And having been here a few years I've seen it all before.

Let's grow up a bit, no man is bigger than the programme or the database, and we should be discussing more relevant matters on this forum related to our hobby, not massaging egos or exchanging insults like playground cissies.

Richard.


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Quoting GSyren:
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From my point of view, I am treated far worse and put up with more stuff than I have ever given to ANY uiser.

If that is true - and I'm not saying that it is - did you ever stop to wonder why this is happening? If so many people here are jerks, why are they only targeting you, Skip?

Did you ever stop to think "Hm, maybe I'm part of the problem"?

Skip PM:d me saying "Thank you for proving my point, Gunnar. Your first and only post in that thread is that of a total JERK and you wonder why I sanp at you".

Well, I didn't mean to be a jerk. Now, english isn't my first language, but I believe I master it well enough not to come off like a jerk unknowingly. Then again, I might be wrong.

Does anyone else think that I was being a jerk when I suggested that Skip should do a little soul searching? If that is the general opinion I shall gladly offer a public apology to Skip.


Seemed perfectly reasonable to me. I don't think I'd have taken offence at it.
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Quoting GSyren:
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Does anyone else think that I was being a jerk when I suggested that Skip should do a little soul searching? If that is the general opinion I shall gladly offer a public apology to Skip.


Looks perfectly all right to me. You did not say that he was part of the problem but kindly pointed him to some self reflection. Nothing wrong with that.
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How terribly classy of you, Gunnar, to bring a PM here, you further demonstrate just how bad YOUR behavior really is.

Look to your own behavior, sir. That in and of itself deserves an apology. I was dealing with man to man. Do you NOT comprehend the meaning of a PRIVATER MESSAGE. Do me a favor, Gunnar, should I decide to return, I find your behavior to totally unacceptable and abusive, so stay away from me.

Skip
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Outta here

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Oh yeah,

Offering to apologies publicly if I inadvertently acted like a jerk is bad behavior. I guess that why you never do it... 
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You just continue to prove my point Gunnar. Which frankly makes me sad, I like you despite the fact that I find your behavior  to be bad.

Skip
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Outta here

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