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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantShinyDiscGuy
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Why can't there be a way just to assign editors as adjudicators rather than having these brain fart sessions every time there's an issue where every tom dick and skip gives there interpretation of the rules.

It was suggested in the past, Ken decided not to do that. In this case though there really isn't anything to interpret, the rule is very clear (agree with it or not).

@ Jimmy - perhaps it's your love for some of the more.... risqué titles but when it comes to possessives size doesn't matter 



God knows someone will find a million and one ways to twist it while there isnt a single authority governing that rule and all the others on this sites contribution.

The principle is sound in letting those who have the title have a say in any changes but the practicalitys of it when put into practice are highly flawed. The current system could remain in place put have a higher authority who's job it will be to judge.

And no i would not recommend Skip for that job although it would be a wet dream for him.
Oh god i just noticed im starting to sound serious about all this. Must be drawn in by all these compelling arguments.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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And no i would not recommend Skip for that job although it would be a wet dream for him.

Skip hasn't posted in more than a week, what say you give it a rest. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantShinyDiscGuy
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And no i would not recommend Skip for that job although it would be a wet dream for him.

Skip hasn't posted in more than a week, what say you give it a rest. 


Your right best to just let the dead rest.
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So I'm pretty sure yet another thread at DVDProfiler has run it's course and the useful information has stopped about three pages back? The question's obviously been answered, and this thread doesn't look like it's going anywhere but downhill.

Who says there ain't no consistency here? 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantShinyDiscGuy
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So I'm pretty sure yet another thread at DVDProfiler has run it's course and the useful information has stopped about three pages back? The question's obviously been answered, and this thread doesn't look like it's going anywhere but downhill.

Who says there ain't no consistency here? 


Hardly the kind people respect though is it.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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I have been told time and time again that this is dvd profiler, not movie profiler...


I do not know who seriously can think that dvdprofiler is made to collect DVD, not movies.

With dvdprofiler, you can collect movies on DVDs, blu-rays, HD-DVDs, and now, with 3.6 custom collections, movies on laserdiscs, VHS, CD, and even ... reels of film.

But dvdprofiler is unable to help you to collect data DVDs, WII DVDs, navigation systems DVDs, programs DVDs and any sort of DVD that do not contain movies...

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The core of our data must come from the DVD, or the packaging.  That is the way the software was designed and intended to be used.

Not at all. At the beginning, we had no rules, just guidelines, and at that time the "all from screen" or "all from the cover" didn't exist (at that time, we had even tools to import data from IMDb). Rules came several years later, to avoid ping-ponging. So it is not true to pretend now that the software was designed to take data from DVD or covers.


What the situation was in the beginning, i do not know.  I know that since I have started (not very long by any standard), we have collected movies on DVD, or their direct variants (BR and HD).  Unless the online changes, I don't see VHS, BETA,LASER Reel, Or self recorded. Even though the new version has given the individual user more capabilities, the online is still restricted to what is collected.

If we were truly cataloging movies, then the movie itself would be primary.  Everything at that point would be for the movie.  IMDB catalogs movies, then orients the dvd's to the movie.  We catalog DVD's and such.  Our primary reference is the UPC, or disc ID.  Without these either of these 2 pieces, the online is nothing by design.

So by design, we collect DVD's.  The others are extensions for the user.

Even though the rules may not have existed in the beginning, they are there now.  The programmer (Ken) must have thought a necessity (even though submitted by other people) to incorporate these rules to achieve what he had in mind (at least at some point).  These rules all gear toward the dvd itself and not the movie.  Everything is from the DVD, the credits, the format, the audio, features, easter eggs, run time,studios and disc id/type.  These are very disc specific in the rules and in practice (hence different credits for dvd's based upon local and even release).  The rest is designed to come from the packaging (overview, title, and mc's).

So, yes, we catalog movie DVD's as a primary
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So, yes, we catalog movie DVD's as a primary.

I think you have missed the fact that  the contributable part of dvdprofiler is much smaller than the local possibilities. I noted that you collect DVDs, but when you write we, please don't count me among this category of users (nothing wrong about that, everyone may do what he wants). Personally, I have nothing to do with those plastic discs by themselves, nothing to do with what is written on covers specially when it is full of errors or typos, and I am only interested in their content.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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@ Jimmy - perhaps it's your love for some of the more.... risqué titles but when it comes to possessives size doesn't matter 

Now that one make me laugh this morning Rick 
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Why can't there be a way just to assign editors as adjudicators rather than having these brain fart sessions every time there's an issue where every tom dick and skip gives there interpretation of the rules.

It was suggested in the past, Ken decided not to do that. In this case though there really isn't anything to interpret, the rule is very clear (agree with it or not).

@ Jimmy - perhaps it's your love for some of the more.... risqué titles but when it comes to possessives size doesn't matter 

Ken quite clearly wants the DVDP COMMUNITY to resolve these issues, or at least hash them out, rather than giving dictates from on high.  His style is different than that of the DVD Spot folks.  It is what it is, so just relax about it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
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Why can't there be a way just to assign editors as adjudicators rather than having these brain fart sessions every time there's an issue where every tom dick and skip gives there interpretation of the rules.

Unless there is some form of adjudication to assigned certain members here i relay see no recourse from this mess people call a contribution system here.


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