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and if he/she is not American, default parsing should be 1//23. Though it can keep some errors, it has more chances to be the correct decision.

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So it's initial state should be a simple 1\2\3 parsing unless\until clear cut evidence can be given to show otherwise.

Why initial state would be 1/2/3 and not 1//23 ?

In fact, I think (and I do so for my local), that if the actor/actress is American, default parsing is 1/2/3, and if he/she is not American, default parsing should be 1//23. Though it can keep some errors, it has more chances to be the correct decision.

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So it's initial state should be a simple 1\2\3 parsing unless\until clear cut evidence can be given to show otherwise.

Why initial state would be 1/2/3 and not 1//23 ?

In fact, I think (and I do so for my local), that if the actor/actress is American, default parsing is 1/2/3, and if he/she is not American, default parsing should be 1//23. Though it can keep some errors, it has more chances to be the correct decision.

So, basically, you are doing the exact same thing we are, just with a different standard.  You admit that your way can keeps some errors, just like our way can, so how is your method any better?

In addition, basing the parsing on nationality isn't going to help.  If I have to look up the nationality of every actor, with more than two names, I'm not going to bother...and I am willing to bet I am not alone.

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A second given name should be entered in the middle name field or in the first name field.

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So to me it makes much more sense to go with 1/2/3 unless you can prove it to be different. Then just document the correct parsing to fix it.

It is far far far more likely to be the opposite. This is only the case in the US which is only 5% of the worlds population and produces less than 20% of all films.

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So it's initial state should be a simple 1\2\3 parsing unless\until clear cut evidence can be given to show otherwise.

Why initial state would be 1/2/3 and not 1//23 ?

In fact, I think (and I do so for my local), that if the actor/actress is American, default parsing is 1/2/3, and if he/she is not American, default parsing should be 1//23. Though it can keep some errors, it has more chances to be the correct decision.

edit : sorry Graveworm. You were faster to say the same thing...

I didn't mean to seem like it should be the "American" way. My point is there needs to be a set initial way, and the simpler the better. 1 name is easy, just put it in the first name field. 2 is easy, first and last name fields. so it makes sense that 3 names gets split into first, middle, and last. Its simple and it makes sense. I admit 4 and on gets more complicated because is it 1/2 3/4 or 1/2/3 4 or 1 2/3/4 I don't know, but it's culturally unbiased.

If you want to complicate things I guess you could say if dealing with an American actor use 1/2/3 otherwise use 1//2 3 (will that hold for every other country) but now I need to research actors to find the CoO and then find the cultural norms of that country for names..way to much work.

Also, not all American Actors use their middle name if they have one. And not all actors use their real name (stage names). Michael J. Fox's (a Canadian btw) middle name is Andrew. The J. is used to differentiate himself from the already existing Michael Fox (and he felt using Michael A. Fox would seem egotistical). So all the arguments about Middle name being primarily an American thing is totally besides the point because the name an Actor use isn't necessarily the name on their birth certificate.

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I don't like to think of it as the "American Way".

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So to me it makes much more sense to go with 1/2/3 unless you can prove it to be different. Then just document the correct parsing to fix it.

It is far far far more likely to be the opposite. This is only the case in the US which is only 5% of the worlds population and produces less than 20% of all films.

Irrelevant comment, Grave. Utterly meaningless, as i have said before the program is based in the United states, were it based in Berlin I would not be pissing and moaning about following German rules.  


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