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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAntares
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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I certainly hope not! I don't have the time to follow everyone else around, nit-picking their votes, PM'ing people who don't meet my standards, insulting everyone in sight, insulting the screeners, etc.


What do you expect from someone whose alter ego is...

DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVittra
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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I love it north, you and others gang up, to attack me and then call for a moderator. Are you wanting to get slapped. You reaslly think it OK to jump on another user and not have him defend himself. I might agree that action might need to be taken against you and some others, do I need to make a list. 

The first post of this thread identifies the contributed film's name and is an attack on that contributor and the voters. Just because you didn't name the contributor doesn't mean it's not an attack on the contributor!

You fired the first shots and should not be surprised that you have -- yet again -- created another thread to stir up a fight and get locked. This has all been done before and is very predictable. 

Since When
Here We Go Again
It is NOT My Desire to To Gor here But...
Some Users Are Idiots
Fifth Element
Following the Rules
Maid in Manhattan

You can't say you didn't know where this thread would end up.


Thank you.
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Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRomzarah
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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Quoting northbloke:
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Invelos obviously expects us all to behave like this.


I certainly hope not! I don't have the time to follow everyone else around, nit-picking their votes, PM'ing people who don't meet my standards, insulting everyone in sight, insulting the screeners, etc.  Please say it isn't so! I just want to cast my vote and move along to the next contribution.  I'd like to trust the screeners to do their job to the best of their abilities at what is clearly a thankless job.  And rely on my fellow users and trust them to catch mistakes when they happen.

If I'm expected to behave this way, I'm out of here!



Another thankless job is to be a contributer... And threads like this one run a lot of people off. Now why can't people just help others? Why not just vote yes and in the vote note tell the user what is wrong and ether ask them to fix and resubmit, or say you will fix the problem after it goes through? Yes vote NO on contributions with a lot wrong, but help where the problem is small.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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Quoting Romzarah:

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Another thankless job is to be a contributer... And threads like this one run a lot of people off. Now why can't people just help others? Why not just vote yes and in the vote note tell the user what is wrong and ether ask them to fix and resubmit, or say you will fix the problem after it goes through? Yes vote NO on contributions with a lot wrong, but help where the problem is small.


Actually, I prefer a no vote otherwise I may not see the note to make the fix, small or not.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRomzarah
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TheMovieman

I always read the notes, we all should.....!!!

If users don't read the notes, is that not blind voting?
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I think that in order to vote we should have to enter a note even to vote yes.
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To me a no vote is always preferred. If there is something wrong with a contribution it should be voted no to. I personally expect it if I make a mistake. Why would I look at the notes if all I am getting is yes votes? Personally I would prefer not only a no vote... but throw a PM my way... make sure I seen that no vote. I usually have many contributions up for vote at any given time. It is very easy to miss a no vote that way. Let alone a yes vote with something wrong in the vote notes.

With as many as I have up at any given time there is no way I would be able to look at every single vote notes for every profile... every single day it is up for vote. I mean you never know when a vote will come up with a note. And with the profiles up for approximately a week... it is way to easy to many to check every single day.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Voting yes when the Rules say Vote no is simply stupid and does nothing to improve the database. We are not required to Contribute, a Contributor is also  not an automatic acceptance, nor should it be. I should not have to worry about whether I need to fix erroneous Contributions made by any user. All one has to do is follow the Rules, Contribute accurate data per the Rules (don't forget Full Audits are also not required) and communicate in your notes.

It's not personal, if take it so, that is your problem. You sound like you believe that if Contribute something then it should just be accepted.
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Time to repeat Invelos' policy (link):

Quoting Ken Cole:
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The Invelos evaluators' standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value.  They do not have to be complete, nor even completely accurate.  If you're submitting 50 painstakingly correct cast entries but get the production year wrong, the profile should be accepted and corrected later.

"No" votes are equally valid in this case, however.  They allow the contributor a chance to correct their submission if they choose, and save someone the effort of the correction later on.

I've sent out a notes reiterating this policy to the evaluators.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Ken can say that. But in my book Tim that only encourages people to be sloppy, and i know lots of people who just love to put their sloppy work on the database. An error should be FIXED if you do not fix it and it is a legitimate error then it should be DECLINED PERIOD, Tim I will not encourage slovenly work. I have seen more than enough of it from some very vocal users who do so willfully and knowingly.

With that kind of policy; Ken might as well throw the Rules out the window, because they are NOT valid any longer. And I'll welcome a discussion with Ken on this very topic, I am tired of seeing bad data allowed into the database.
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here

Billy Video
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Ken can say that.

He can, yeah. And while your latest 18.614 posts have made for some entertaining reading as well, somehow I'm just a tad more interested in what he has to say. But hey: that's just me. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Yeah, I'll just bet you are, since you are one of the prime parties.        
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here

Billy Video
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If only everybody consistently ignored Ken and just listened to you instead, eh?

Sorry... No can do!     
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAntares
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Ken can say that. But in my book Tim that only encourages people to be sloppy, and i know lots of people who just love to put their sloppy work on the database.


Thankfully, Ken is the author of the book that we all subscribe to, not yours.

Why can't you accept what Ken has said? He is the author of the program and it's his baby. If your views don't match his, then create your own program. Problem solved!
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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I prefer no votes as often as it takes to get it right. If I feel I have followed the rules, then I leave it to the screeners. If it's rejected, and I like what I have done, I lock it and move on. It's not personal.  
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
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