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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting superted: Quote:
What's interesting in this thread is that the majority of people against writing the overview with spelling errors is from outside the US. I am from Norway, and covers from my country tends to have way more spelling errors than those from the UK and US! If our local covers were as good as the american ones I would not have bothered about this topic in the first place... That makes no difference to me. If anything, I want to represent our Swedish covers as bad as they are, not pretend otherwise by making my own alterations to them. Let it be shown so the responsible people can stand in their rightful shame. If the overviews should be "corrected", which I strongly oppose, then it should be done retaining the original text within brackets so that everyone can see what's been altered. Everything else is a fabrication of falsehoods. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 762 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Quoting force:
Quote: Maybe sooner or later enough other people will be convinced, so we can have the rules changed to something better and more consistent.
We have consistency now with exactly as on cover. A much better rule in my opinion. As soon as users would be allowed to fix what they believe are "errors" and use what they consider "common sense" chaos would erupt again. | | | Last edited: by TheDarkKnight |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: Jimmy.
Personal desires or preferencess cannot be a part of it, thats local. I know that's why I don't use it. It just too much trouble for me to have to rework multiple profiles if I use one from the database. Just sound counterproductive to me... BTW the real rating written on a cover isn't a preference or a desire, writing an invented one is. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote: Maybe sooner or later enough other people will be convinced, so we can have the rules changed to something better and more consistent. The only person you need to convince is Ken. If you don't convince him, which I doubt you will, then it doesn't matter how many other people you do convince. Beyond that, 'better' is in the eye of the beholder. What is better for you may not be better for everyone. As for being consistent, I believe the rule is quite consistent...assuming, of course, you know what the word 'exactly' means. (I don't mean you specifically, I mean in general.) | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 23, 2011 | Posts: 462 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting force:
Quote: Maybe sooner or later enough other people will be convinced, so we can have the rules changed to something better and more consistent. The only person you need to convince is Ken. If you don't convince him, which I doubt you will, then it doesn't matter how many other people you do convince.
No, that is not quite correct. You will first need a consensus to a proposal for a rule change (see the Contribution Rules Committee forum, second post from the top) . So the more people convinced the better. No, the existing rules are not consistent. We fix some errors and collect others (see earlier in this thread). |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote: No, that is not quite correct. You will first need a consensus to a proposal for a rule change (see the Contribution Rules Committee forum, second post from the top) . So the more people convinced the better. Good luck wit that. This is one of the issues brought back to forums almost yearly basis. It never leads anywhere and I'm personally happy with that because I like the rule as it is. Quote: No, the existing rules are not consistent. We fix some errors and collect others (see earlier in this thread). Which errors we fix? Missed it somehow... |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Just for fun, take a look at [5050582889260]. I still believe the rule should be kept as it is |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Just for fun, take a look at [5050582889260]. I still believe the rule should be kept as it is |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 756 |
| Posted: | | | | OK so that overview has a few missing spaces , but this one [5050582860122] changes the whole meaning of the sentence. Read the contribution notes, and look at the rear cover. It took a couple of tries (me, then Neil) to get it "correct" , i.e. changing "Vince and Gillian Lynne" to " ince and Gillian Lynne". I can also have sympathy with Terry's point when he wanted to correct it to match the others in the DB, i.e. "Hal Prince and Gillian Lynne" (that submission was declined). BTW, Jhon is a "valid" first name, as in Jhon Eduis Viáfara Mina, who plays football for Independiente Medellín in Columbia. Now, just don't get me started on the consistent spelling mistake on most of my Region 1 discs.... ...where it states Color........ | | | Chris | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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Registered: June 15, 2012 | Posts: 428 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote: As soon as users would be allowed to fix what they believe are "errors" and use what they consider "common sense" chaos would erupt again. And there we have a conundrum. But wouldn't the idea of "voting" on updates be the right thing here? If an entry has a typo and one soul has a copy and submitted a correction, then isn't it up to a vote of the people who have the same copy of that release to "vote" on whether it should be accepted or not? The majority of owners of that particular release will then determine if they want the typo corrected version or the original version with the typo. I know that's not how it works now, but a plausible solution. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Then you just have 2 or more groups/sides voting the way they prefer. And when one is approved the other side will put in they're preferred way.... starting it all over again. And it can go back and forth... depending on who is online to vote those few days. causing a ping pong of contributions... a war if you will of different sides. which can also cause arguments here in the forum and such. Talk about a bunch of trouble!
Why would we want to go through such a thing when we have a clear and concise rule like we have now. | | | Pete |
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Registered: June 15, 2012 | Posts: 428 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote: Now, just don't get me started on the consistent spelling mistake on most of my Region 1 discs....
...where it states Color........ And yet again another conundrum. For all the sticklers in here who say that it must be exactly what is on the case. Well a majority of my copies state "Colour" clearly on the back cover, yet I am forced to submit a mistake, "Color", to the database. Since all these submissions of mine are obviously against the rules, should I fix this by asking Invelos to remove most of the profiles I have submitted? |
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Registered: June 15, 2012 | Posts: 428 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Then you just have 2 or more groups/sides voting the way they prefer. And when one is approved the other side will put in they're preferred way.... starting it all over again. And it can go back and forth... depending on who is online to vote those few days. causing a ping pong of contributions... a war if you will of different sides. which can also cause arguments here in the forum and such. Talk about a bunch of trouble!
Why would we want to go through such a thing when we have a clear and concise rule like we have now. Create a new voting subsection. 1. Submissions that make typo corrections or similar take a longer time to resolve - let's say a month. 2. Submissions that make typo corrections or similar launch a notification email to all existing members who have a copy of the release that this type of submission has been made (preferably with a link to the voting section). Then after the allotted lengthy time, it will become clear what the majority think. Any further corrections along the same lines are not allowed until the ownership of the release increases to a point where another vote could produce a different result. ie: Say 10 people owned it, and went through the original vote, then no further submissions of this correction type is allowed until say 15 or more people now own a copy. | | | Last edited: by Parsec |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I really don't see Invelos going through all that. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 756 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Parsec: Quote:
For all the sticklers in here who say that it must be exactly what is on the case. Well a majority of my copies state "Colour" clearly on the back cover, yet I am forced to submit a mistake, "Color", to the database.
Since all these submissions of mine are obviously against the rules, should I fix this by asking Invelos to remove most of the profiles I have submitted? Nah, just tell 'em in the contribution notes that it's written in ye Olde Englishe | | | Chris | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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Registered: June 15, 2012 | Posts: 428 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: I really don't see Invelos going through all that. Thing is, they don't have to. The submission is flagged as a typo correction submission. It automatically sets an expiry date (1 month later), automatically sends the notification email and sets a flag to check in one months time. In 1 month, the system looks at the votes and either accepts the submission or declines depending on the vote tally. It then flags the system to not be able to accept this type of submission until "current number of profile holders + 50%" = current number of profile holders. All automated, no need for a screener or nothing, all done by a simple script. |
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