Voice their opinion? Absolutely!
Refuse to contribute the way Ken has it established? No!

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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Voice their opinion? Absolutely!
Refuse to contribute the way Ken has it established? No!

The way it is established:

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Thank you for your interest in contributing to the DVD Profiler main database!

As part of our ongoing quest to maintain, improve and refine our DVD database, we have created these rules. These rules apply to online contributions. You can use DVD Profiler locally, or you can contribute to the main online database, or you can do both. If you want to contribute to the online database, the rules tell you how to complete each DVD Profiler field.

If you wish to save different information in your local profiles, you are free to do so in your local database, but do not contribute your information. The main database is standardized so that all profiles follow these rules. DVD Profiler allows you to lock your data so that it is not overwritten by updates from the main database.

The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover.  In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.

These rules apply to all kinds of profiles, but there are two special cases where the rules need clarifications. Where you see the icons shown below, refer to the special instructions at the end of this document. These are titled Movie Box sets and TV Series on DVD.

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Nowhere does it say that we must look into the forums. Nowhere does it say the forum statements by Ken fit into the rules. Sorry, but we MUST NOT rely on other users to let people know of forum posts.

Quoting samuelrichardscott:

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Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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Voice their opinion? Absolutely!
Refuse to contribute the way Ken has it established? No!

The way it is established:

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Thank you for your interest in contributing to the DVD Profiler main database!

As part of our ongoing quest to maintain, improve and refine our DVD database, we have created these rules. These rules apply to online contributions. You can use DVD Profiler locally, or you can contribute to the main online database, or you can do both. If you want to contribute to the online database, the rules tell you how to complete each DVD Profiler field.

If you wish to save different information in your local profiles, you are free to do so in your local database, but do not contribute your information. The main database is standardized so that all profiles follow these rules. DVD Profiler allows you to lock your data so that it is not overwritten by updates from the main database.

The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover.  In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.

These rules apply to all kinds of profiles, but there are two special cases where the rules need clarifications. Where you see the icons shown below, refer to the special instructions at the end of this document. These are titled Movie Box sets and TV Series on DVD.

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Nowhere does it say that we must look into the forums. Nowhere does it say the forum statements by Ken fit into the rules. Sorry, but we MUST NOT rely on other users to let people know of forum posts.

As I said... whether we like it or not... the clarifications of the rules in the forums is just as established around here as the rules themselves.

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Wrong... the last update was Feb 2009 See The Revision History right in the rules. Showing a good handful of revisions just since Invelos in 2007.

WOW! An "original title rule changed" change. HUGE update there. 

And how many rules are mixed in the forums that people are magically expected to know that haven't made their ways to the rules?

If you make a rule change in the forum, really, how much time does it take to update the rules?

(In all honesty, though, the rules need a complete re-write, as nobody understands them anyway, so at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.)

I don't know how many times I have to say it... but I agree (as most everyone here at the forums do)... I would love to see the rules updated with every clarification. Or at least every time he gets a handful of rules to update.

But neither of us has control over that... short of asking for updates (which we have... and Gerri said she was working on several months ago) there is not much we can do. Even with that said... I can not ignore Ken or Gerri's clarifications to the rules just because I don't like that they were not put into the rules themselves. All we can do is contribute and vote per the clarifications given to us... and point others to them until the time comes that they see fit to add them to the rules.

You do that. I will continue to vote and submit in accordance with the rules and I cannot be accused of not following them.

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Addicted2DVD , I don't think including burned-in subtitles ignores the clarification. it said not to include audio tracks that you have to change the player settings to access, but to include audio tracks that are accessibel through the audio button or menus. We can say this also applies to subtitles as a general principle, but I don't see how it addresses burned-in one way or the other.

He said (paraphrasing of course) if not accessible in one of the above  ways not to include them. As I said... he may not of meant it like that at the time... but that is what he said. And I would love to see a better clarification... but it is there.

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- Get upset and decide not to contribute to the online database (while I hate to see it... always a decision we all have to make)

And I promise that happens more often than people would admit.