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Anamorphic on Blu-ray/DVD Combo Sets. To tick or not to tick, that is the question
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Stop singling me out Skip - I'm sick and tired of your insulting remarks directed to me.

I'm not "throwing mud on the wall", "raping the database" or doing any of the other nasty comments you like flinging my way.

I am neither "squirming" and not bothered by the fact that you don't agree with me.

I am expressing my opinions. They are mine, I own them and I don't feel any need to apologize for discussing things in a polite, respectful way.

No one should ask for or expect an apology for respectfully expressing a difference in opinion.

Apologies are called for when disagreement becomes nasty. These are the things that I would apologize for:

When insults such as calling someone "idiots" or "stupid" are posted.

Or, telling someone they are "raping the database".

Or making unfounded insulting and statements such as "damage that some users have done to both the rules and the online with absurdity."

But, I didn't say those things Skip - you did and not once did you say "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong"

You don't have the right to demand of others what you refuse to do yourself.

If an issue were clear and easily understandable, then it wouldn't be brought up time and time again.

It is not necessary to "beep repeatedly".

Demands, harassment and insults are not the way to get me to see things differently.

In fact, it makes me dismiss anything you say as having any relevance.

You might want to direct your comments to the many other community members who do not agree with you on this topic.

Of course if you talk to them the way you talk to me you might find them as  unreceptive to your "help" as I do.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Quoting Scooter1836:
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Video format is absolutely supposed to be included in BD/DVD combo's just as  Disc Id, Easter Eggs, Credits, Subtitles, Audio, Disc Features are to be included since are to be entered as a normal profile


I was reading the rules that we did NOT include Disc Id, Easter Eggs etc. in the BD/DVD profile - that's where I was getting confused.

You made things much clearer - thank you.

I was reading it wrong and will change my votes accordingly.

Edit: Vote changed, again, after Ken's comments about this topic.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Btw kathy i have not called anyone either stupid or an idiot.  Those are your words of choice,not mine.
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We clearly do enter some info from the DVD in combo packs. We enter the media type and disc ID, obviously. Everyone accepts that the rule "use the details from the HD media in the main profile" doesn't apply to every field. The question is which fields it does apply to.

Quoting DoubleDownAgain
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Agreed, and the HD Data is that it is non-anamorphic.


A Blu-ray is non-anamorphic like a radio play is not in color. An anamorphic field on a blu-ray shoudl be N/A, not no. For a plain Blu-ray, it is N/A. Combo packs were specifically programmed to give us the option.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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And I am not sick and tired of the damage you have caused, the malicious and downright libellous comments you direct at me.

Now you believe that you can ignore a rule based upon your incorrect belief.

Give me a break Kathy. Your pompous, self righteous attitude is way over the top on this one.

Sorry look to your ow disgusting behavior before you dare throw rocks at me or anyone else. I will not tell you the private comments I have gotten about you just on this thread, they aren't nice, I may be upset but I still like you too much to offer that info, it will remain wherevit originated private.


Damage? The voters and screeners disagree.

"libellous"? You must mean "libelous". I have always taken great care with things I post. I don't have to make things up about you Skip - all I have to do is quote you and let your words speak for themselves.

"pompous"?, "self righteous"?  "attitude"? "way over the top"? Will you ever stop with the insulting comments?

"disgusting behavior"? For what? I was discussing this topic and posted an opinion. I didn't resort to name calling or insults. I'd ask you to quote the posts that were offensive but, based on similar requests, I won't bother.

I've re-read my posts several times and NOT ONCE did I violate invelos' rules regarding forum posts. You on the other hand...

I would love to compare private messages - I've received hundreds about you - but these are private and will remain so.

And, because I'm only human and can only take so much from you, why don't you think about this:

The community has the ability to publicly give positive or negative feedback on forum posts.

You have 21,602 posts and have yet to get enough positive feedback to earn even 1 star. Have you ever asked yourself why?

It might be that your posts might not be as helpful or the community as supportive as you think.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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A Blu-ray is non-anamorphic like a radio play is not in color. An anamorphic field on a blu-ray shoudl be N/A, not no. For a plain Blu-ray, it is N/A. Combo packs were specifically programmed to give us the option.


I don't think so, and I don't think that comparison is valid.  It could be possible to do it for Blu-ray but they decided to just fix the image at 16:9.

Unlike DVD, Blu-ray supports SMPTE HD resolutions of 720p and 1080i/p with a display aspect ratio of 16:9 and a pixel aspect ratio of 1:1, so widescreen video is scaled non-anamorphically (this is referred to as "square" pixels).

Are you saying that it should be ticked (if the DVD is anamorphic) because you believe that is what the rules say?  Or do you believe it should be?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Tian you are 60% correct why would younit include bothe video and audio as it pertsains to the "parent". It willl apply to the bd and be different from the DVD child.

Actually, I am 100% correct.  Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I intended but I was talking about the video and audio of the DVD.  What I meant was, we include the extra features from the DVD, in the main profile, but not the specific details...video, audio, etc.
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And btw your reference to condescension is in your imagination, not factual.

No, my statement, that the condescending and patronising comments are not needed is, in fact, factual as they are not needed.  The only way my statement is not factual is if you believe they are needed...which I hope you don't.
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Since your reference was probably aimed at me I think I know a but more about it than thew, maybe a small touch of sarcasm.

My statement was a general one aimed at everyone...myself included.  If it were aimed at you, I would have been quite clear about that.  As you know, full well, I don't mince words.
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But then I am not one who is pretending that a very clear rule us not clear, it causes some wonderment and some very interesting questions come to mind but I won't go there.

While I don't see how it is unclear, I don't believe anyone is pretending...at least I hope not.
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The rule about using the data from the HD came out of discussions of conflicting data. The program design and common sense make it impossible to take it as a blanket statement. Otherwise, you end up with the diea that you shouldn't check DVD as a medium because you are supposed to get data from the HD disc.

I honestly don't know how anybody would end up with that idea as the rule, quite clearly, states that you are supposed to check all included media types. 

The rule, as written, tells us to tick all media types...so that we know it is a combo disc...but only include the details from the HD media.  I understand that you don't think it makes sense, but please don't tell that isn't what it says.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Btw kathy i have not called anyone either stupid or an idiot.  Those are your words of choice,not mine.


Here are few threads to remind you of exactly how you talk to people. Of course some of your worse posts were so offensive the moderators stepped in and removed them:

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=582621&messageID=1686361#M1686361

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=587682&PageNum=1

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=643891&messageID=1985153#M1985153

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=646098&PageNum=1

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=628933&PageNum=1

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=644391&messageID=1987125#M1987125

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=602130&messageID=1747952#M1747952

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=640600&PageNum=1

Please pay special attention to the last two. You fought long and hard to prove that your opinion was right. You weren't - Ken said so.

You demanded that I admit when I was wrong and admit I made a mistake in this thread - which I did - I would ask that you do the same for those.

Edit: It seems that I wasn't wrong after all - I wonder if Skip will publicly apologize to me for all the derogatory comments he made to and about me in this thread.
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A Blu-ray is non-anamorphic like a radio play is not in color. An anamorphic field on a blu-ray shoudl be N/A, not no. For a plain Blu-ray, it is N/A. Combo packs were specifically programmed to give us the option.

The cast and crew section was specifically programmed to give me the option of entering a birth year for every single person entered.  Since it was, should I enter all the BYs I can find or should I follow the rule that tells me I can't?

What the program allows isn't relevant to this discussion as we contribute based on the rules.
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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The rule about using the data from the HD came out of discussions of conflicting data. The program design and common sense make it impossible to take it as a blanket statement. Otherwise, you end up with the diea that you shouldn't check DVD as a medium because you are supposed to get data from the HD disc.

I honestly don't know how anybody would end up with that idea as the rule, quite clearly, states that you are supposed to check all included media types. 

The rule, as written, tells us to tick all media types...so that we know it is a combo disc...but only include the details from the HD media.  I understand that you don't think it makes sense, but please don't tell that isn't what it says.


The rules also say to enter anamorphic DVDs as anamorphic. The question is which rules override what. However, that was snark than a serious argument. I'll grant you this point. What about disc IDs, though. Does anyone hold that this rule means you shouldn't enter the disc ID of any DVDs in a combo pack on the main profile?
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AT MARTIAN
I agree I hope that everyone wad bring front and center on this but the rule is do simple and easy to understand I have my doubts. Particularly when Kathy, sorry Kath, even tried to bring the wrong rule into the discussion, I was like what the...then I discovered she was trying to invoke some imagined lack of consensus to support a no vote which was in direct conflict with the rule.

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I am very serious when I say how upset I am over the damage which has been done to the rules and the online because of some here. I hope one day I can explain it to ken, but the damage is not light and I doubt if any user...I will say I am willing to outline it privately but otherwise only to ken.
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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The rule about using the data from the HD came out of discussions of conflicting data. The program design and common sense make it impossible to take it as a blanket statement. Otherwise, you end up with the diea that you shouldn't check DVD as a medium because you are supposed to get data from the HD disc.

I honestly don't know how anybody would end up with that idea as the rule, quite clearly, states that you are supposed to check all included media types. 

The rule, as written, tells us to tick all media types...so that we know it is a combo disc...but only include the details from the HD media.  I understand that you don't think it makes sense, but please don't tell that isn't what it says.


The rules also say to enter anamorphicDVDs as anamorphic. The question is which rules override what. However, that was snark than a serious argument. I'll grant you this point. What about disc IDs, though. Does anyone hold that this rule means you shouldn't enter the disc ID of any DVDs in a combo pack on the main profile?
. I hope in the future you will leave snark off the forums, it is st the very least in poor taste.
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I am not surprised you being snarky. That snarkiness on your part caused a major argument and hurt feelings on several parts. I hope it was worth it to you, please keep the snark out of the forums. If you can't it will become hard to take what you say seriously.

Now as to disc is question, the disc is should reside only with its appropriate profile. We do not treat the combos as a true parent child system. Boxset rule does not apply in any way.

Oh one other thing I notice that everyone was paying so much attention to a user's snarky behavior and anothers rather vicious attacks on me, yes vicious., that my request for a serious discussion went ignored, I am still willing to listen but I am not going to repeat the request, I have done so at least twice now. If you want to discuss I am willing.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Kathy
In case you didn't know it there is a difference between calling someone stupid and saying something they were saying is stupid. I font want to play who shot john, it accomplishes nothing. And if you are pretending that you are free from all blame, trust me you are not. Someof your language is do incendiary that had you been in front of me I would hsve decked you or anyone else over it. As I said look to your own behavior FIRST. I AM SERIOUS..


Insults are unnecessary - read the posts I went through and found for you - but you almost continually resort to using them.

Once again, if you find a post of mine to insulting quote me. I've spent the last hour going through and reading both of our posts. I suggest you do the same.

It is your posts, and yours alone, that the moderator has decided they needed to be removed.

And, who the hell do you think you are to threaten me with physical violence?

You need help Skip - there is something seriously wrong with you - I hope you get it.
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