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Honorifics and the 'Credited As' field
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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<banging head on keyboard>






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ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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<banging head on keyboard>

I guess everyone needs a hobby. 
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Well, I PM'd Ken yesterday asking him to weigh in on this, but..............
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Because this can be fixed very easily by going back to the original way the rules were written.  This never had to happen in the first place.

I never said otherwise.

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OMB & OCB  were defined in the text and anyone with intelligence could interpret what roles were to be represented.  It's hardly the same.

You are correct, it isn't the same because, in the case of OMB & OCB, the rules expressly forbid the entry of any credit that did not read "Original Material By" or "Original Characters By."  There was no exception for interpreting the notes so let's not pretend that it wasn't breaking the rules.

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So now your argument is that we break the rules for some things why not this?  Well, why not any other field, if that's the way you feel.  The precendent is set that we can break the rules if it suits us at the moment.  Rather than trying to get the Rules fixed, let's just do it the way we want to because we don't want to lose the data.  Why have you not entered Supervising Producers in the past?  Why are they different?

Nice try at twisting what I said.  I never said that we could break the rules when it suits us, I said that we have broken the rules when there was a program limitation...as there is in this case...and when the rules prevented the entry of valid data...as they did in the case of OMB & OCB.

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Let's get the Rule fixed instead of corrupting the data just to get it entered!

I am not against getting the rule fixed.  What I am against, is omiting the data based on a rule that does not exist.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting hal9g:
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Because this can be fixed very easily by going back to the original way the rules were written.  This never had to happen in the first place.

I never said otherwise.

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OMB & OCB  were defined in the text and anyone with intelligence could interpret what roles were to be represented.  It's hardly the same.

You are correct, it isn't the same because, in the case of OMB & OCB, the rules expressly forbid the entry of any credit that did not read "Original Material By" or "Original Characters By."  There was no exception for interpreting the notes so let's not pretend that it wasn't breaking the rules.

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So now your argument is that we break the rules for some things why not this?  Well, why not any other field, if that's the way you feel.  The precendent is set that we can break the rules if it suits us at the moment.  Rather than trying to get the Rules fixed, let's just do it the way we want to because we don't want to lose the data.  Why have you not entered Supervising Producers in the past?  Why are they different?

Nice try at twisting what I said.  I never said that we could break the rules when it suits us, I said that we have broken the rules when there was a program limitation...as there is in this case...and when the rules prevented the entry of valid data...as they did in the case of OMB & OCB.

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Let's get the Rule fixed instead of corrupting the data just to get it entered!

I am not against getting the rule fixed.  What I am against, is omiting the data based on a rule that does not exist.

ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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If you have someone uncredited with a Honorific do you just remove it
Dr. John Smith becomes John Smith
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If you have someone uncredited with a Honorific do you just remove it
Dr. John Smith becomes John Smith


By the rules yes.  The DB name will be John//Smith  Credited as Dr. John Smith



Charlie
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If you have someone uncredited with a Honorific do you just remove it
Dr. John Smith becomes John Smith


By the rules yes.  The DB name will be John//Smith  Credited as Dr. John Smith



Charlie

That can't be done. If someone is uncredited, the Credited As field is greyed out.
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If you have someone uncredited with a Honorific do you just remove it
Dr. John Smith becomes John Smith

Yes. Removing it is the only way to link such an (uncredited) appearance with his credited appearances.
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Quoting CharlieM:
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If you have someone uncredited with a Honorific do you just remove it
Dr. John Smith becomes John Smith


By the rules yes.  The DB name will be John//Smith  Credited as Dr. John Smith



Charlie

That can't be done. If someone is uncredited, the Credited As field is greyed out.



My bad, typed before I read
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Chief Dan George
Would "Chief" be considered a honorific? i was just about to contribute it when i got that niggling little voice in the back of my head making me doubt   
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hmmmm....
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Chief Dan George
Would "Chief" be considered a honorific? i was just about to contribute it when i got that niggling little voice in the back of my head making me doubt   

Yes, it would
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Billy Video
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Chief Dan George
Would "Chief" be considered a honorific? i was just about to contribute it when i got that niggling little voice in the back of my head making me doubt   

According to the bio info he seems to be a genuine Chief (as opposed to a stage name), so yeah I'd class it as an honorific.
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