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I sure hope that your posting was a joke.  If it wasn't a joke, then I am glad you are in California and I am in Canada.

I refuse to dignify your insults with a response other than to say that at least I had the guts to openly express my opinion on this matter. Apparently in doing so I opened myself up for public redicule...but such is life.

I don't understand what insult was done to you. You were ridiculed for your comments. I fail to see the insult.

I'm not going to bother posting to this thread anymore.

It seems pointless.

Being ridiculed for ones opinions is insulting.  It is unfortunate that you can't see that.  It is, however, expected. 

Hi Guys,

Wow miss a day, and were 3 pages advanced from my last post.

8ballMax, FUBAR feud I suspect this is what the stars program hoped to curtail. Contrary to what you think "FUBAR" I do not believe 8ballMax to be in least bit silly, in any regard. While you may disagree with his comments please try to be respectful!

The other day I watched "Dr. Phil's TV show.  He had two female guests one young 14/15 & the other was 23/24. The two feuded back & forth on the internet (I believe Facebook) name calling & expletives, were running hot. Note if Facebook had stars they would have both probably been suspended or banned. Ok so Dr Phil has the two female combatants meet, on his show. It seems that the young girl liked to get really drunk & post drunken pictures of herself on Facebook. The older gal tried too reason with the young gril explaining, your presenting a poor image of yourself to the world. This upset the young girl & the expletives hit the fan. Dr. Phil, other experts, in the audience & the older girl, could not get the young gal to see the error of her way. She heard the words, but felt compelled to defend her actions.

All too often folks just won't listen & are hell bent to defend there position. Take a few minutes & try to understand what the other person is saying & ask for clarification from him/her before commenting.

1. Global warming is real! Skip shame on you for your post (I believe page 6) denouncing global warming by pointing to one specific point on the globe. This is typical Sean Hannity type garbage, to deceive the masses, for his agenda. It seems my bad star button, has never worked so your safe. Only my good star button works. Also Skip I agree with all you posts except the one.

Global warming is real & measured in fractions of a degree per year, over the entire planet. Take a look at the melting icebergs & the loss of Arctic ice.

Global warming & cooling has occurred many many times without man's footprint. Global warming/cooling is a cyclic event. If you were to plot on a graph time intervals for warming max to cooling max., were talking geological time frame. So the argument is, is man speeding up a natural occurring event, most likely yes. So if one complete cycle (global warming max/cooling max) say historically takes 300,000 years to complete, then is man made pollution, reducing the cycles completion by 50,000 years? 

Take Care
Rico

I didn't read any 'insults' in Unicus' post either, but perhaps that has something to do at what end of the 'table' one is sitting?

Offcourse a 'catastrophy' is going to happen when the planet warms up. The lower parts of the land, certain countries, will be flooded, but that probably isn't much different from what happened years before the most recent ice age. It's a natural phenomena, and yes it is/might be catasrophic when you are living in a coastal area (that is appr 5 meters below sea level at this moment for me). But why is it catasrophic not because of the environment, but for the people living there, and (unfortunatly) that is life!
After the planet warmed up it'll try and cool itself down. No more North Sea then and a big chunk of ice in the back yard!

The earth doesn't only rotate around its axis, but also tilts (that is why we have spring, summer, autumn and winter). The tilt under goes a slight irregular motion which causes parts which were cold to become warmer and vice versa. On Wikipedia there is more information.
The way men has created greenhouse gasses probably speeds up the warming of the planet, but it sure as heck was happening anyway.

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The way men has created greenhouse gasses probably speeds up the warming of the planet, but it sure as heck was happening anyway.

I quite agree, I think most people would. I've never heard of anyone saying that we should fight against natural climate change.
But the problem is that, as you say, man's lifestyle is causing climate change to speed up and become more extreme. Nature would normally adapt to any climate change over the years, but now the changes are so fast it's unable to do so. Certain animals' environments have been destroyed without giving the species the time needed to migrate to another area which, due to climate change, now suits it's needs.

The main argument is that if we don't do something to minimise man's influence on climate change, then we end up tipping the scales too far one way and create an unnatural situation that the planet can't recover from.

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To: Unicus

The following comment of your's doesn't seem to generalize but does seem to me to be specifically aimed at a single individual. I underline the non general part:

"Being ridiculed for ones opinions is insulting.  It is unfortunate that you can't see that.  It is, however, expected."

If you had intended it be a general comment then you should not have written the middle sentence.

That part of my statement was aimed at him...though I don't see how it can be taken as 'ridicule'...but, to each his own.  The last sentence, however, was a general comment and why these types of discussions, along with religion and politics, are usually avoided in 'pleasant company'.

The people who are most passionate about the issue have no problem insulting, ridiculing, demeaning or dismissing the opinions of the other side.  In addition, when called on that behavior, they usually point back and say the other person is the one who is being insulting.  As I said, unfortunate, but expected. 

I apolagize for the misunderstanding.

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Seems quite appropriate, suits you


Are you okay now Rico? Yes

Take Care
Rico

Absolutely correcton all points, 8 Ball. Adapt and survive, fail to adapt and perish...it really is that simple.

Skip

I wasn't going to bother posting to this thread since it seems to get derailed too easily but there was a BBC news programme which I felt should be brought to peoples attention here.

There has been a lot of speculation as to which country will be the first to disappear now that global warming has been accepted as a fact..

On the 10oclock news they reported the current situation on Tuvalu.

In 2001, the Islanders were having to start leaving
BBC News 9 Oct, 2001

In 2003, they said..
"We live in constant fear of the adverse impacts of climate change. For a coral atoll nation, sea level rise and more severe weather events loom as a growing threat to our entire population. The threat is real and serious, and is of no difference to a slow and insidious form of terrorism against us."

-Saufatu Sopoanga, Prime Minister of Tuvalu, at the 58th Session of the United Nations General Assembly New York, 24th September 2003

Today..
The BBC showed pictures on the news from the Island. The water is now destroying the Island with the sea water killing all the plants on the Island.

The Islanders believe that within 50 years the Island will be uninhabitable.

Article about the problems
Tuvalu and Global warming