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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | "an adult title is one whose primary purpose is sexual arousal or stimulation"
Would like to see Ken chime in on this as well... but I would think that... coupled with the nudity on the case gives us a pretty good idea what we are expected to do.
So I personally would like to see something like...
"an adult title is one whose primary purpose is sexual arousal / stimulation or has shown nudity on the front or back cover."
... added to the rules as an explanation. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Yes I know my error 
I try to find the german released to see the cover but no luck yet. I'm surprise it was released by a german company, I was sure that talking of the third reich was a big constitutional no-no there. Looks like we learn something new every day  That's because I think it's an Austrian release not German. I think you're right, the German authorities would have a very hard time allowing a film like Ilsa to be released. |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only issue I'm covering here is what's already stated - nudity on the cover requires an adult genre or rating.
We're not stepping into the genre definition beyond that statement. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Could you be more explicit (if you forgive the pun) about this? What about films like "Lust Caution", "Crash", "Intimacy", "9 Songs" or other films that are about sexuality and sexual relationships but I wouldn't consider an "adult" title.
I've always followed the guideline that an adult title is one whose primary purpose is sexual arousal or stimulation. Is that valid or are you talking about any film that is sexually explicit (even if not graphic)? I have to believe he is talking about films that did not receive theatrical ratings. 'Crash' was rated R, at least it was here in the states, so wouldn't qualify as an 'adult' film. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh I'm confused now. So we're only to mark DVDs as adult if the cover contains nudity regardless of the content of the DVD?
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I've looked at the profile in question and it's the back cover that seems to be the problem. There is a still on there from a sex scene which although not too explicit is still fairly full of nudity. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Oh I'm confused now. So we're only to mark DVDs as adult if the cover contains nudity regardless of the content of the DVD? He did cover this... That is the only time it HAS to be marked as adult to get it into the database... see this post.. CLICKEdit: As a genre choice... that is still as subjective as it has ever been. It is up to the individuals. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | If there's nudity on the cover, check adult for genre or rating.
This does not preclude other uses of the adult genre and rating. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken, Thank you for stepping in and giving us a statement on this topic. It makes things much easier when the zombie speaks!  |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
If there's nudity on the cover, check adult for genre or rating.
This does not preclude other uses of the adult genre and rating. But that's my problem - it's not clear to me when you're supposed to use the adult genre and rating. The rules only state: Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films but I want to know what you consider to be an adult film. Are we only talking about films that would traditionally be considered "pornographic" or are we talking about all sexually explicit films? And does it matter if the sex is real or simulated? Does violence play any part of this, should we be marking explicitly violent covers as adult too? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe what he is getting at is that the only time it must be set to adult is when there is nudity on the cover. Other then that... it is like any other genre. Just as subjective as any other. I showed him images of Girls Gone Wild and Playboy Videos... and he said...
Since there is no nudity shown on the covers that he saw they didn't have to be... but he would make them so as they are adult in nature. So basically if you think they are adult in nature you are safe to submit them as such... and see where the votes go. Just like any other genre. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | You may wish to open a discussion in the contribution rules forum to cover that issue, however I don't foresee attempting to integrate a specific definition of 'adult' into the rules. I believe that's best handled by the community at the locality level. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is there any chance you could at least add a comment to the rules that covers that contain nudity are required to be marked as "adult"? Because that Ilsa decision confused the hell out of a bunch of us until you mentioned the nudity. |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'll cue it up for the next update, however this isn't a new rule - the evaluators have had this guidance for years. Likely the fact that some were looking at the wrong cover added confusion to this particular case. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
If there's nudity on the cover, check adult for genre or rating. Just to get this straight: The cover of "Catch 22" where you can see (among several other things) the naked behind of Alan Arkin now has to be checked as "adult", even though the actual rating is 16+ ?? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
...I try to find the german released to see the cover but no luck yet. I'm surprise it was released by a german company, I was sure that talking of the third reich was a big constitutional no-no there. Looks like we learn something new every day
... Try to search with locality Austria. The op profile should be in database as it got accepted in the second try with Adult Genre. Edit: I see northbloke beat me. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Quoting Ken Cole:
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If there's nudity on the cover, check adult for genre or rating.
Just to get this straight:
The cover of "Catch 22" where you can see (among several other things) the naked behind of Alan Arkin now has to be checked as "adult", even though the actual rating is 16+ ?? You can leave the rating alone, since the DVD already has a rating. But then you check the "adult" genre instead. Assuming that you consider that the cover merits that, which is a value judgement. | | | | Hans |
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