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Blue Ray or HD DVD???
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantbroderp
Registered: July 23, 2007
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I'm entering the market for a HD player and am a bit mixed up with which format is best or will win the 'war'.

All the reviews I have found are outdated, and some of the facts are either wrong or speculation.

I've read

"Blue ray discs are more expensive" FALSE, visit to my local Best buy /Circuit city shows new disca are $35 HD DVD vs $29 Bkur Ray (The movie 300 comes to mind)

"Blue Ray Player are 2X as expensive as HD DVD"...FALSE, though the are more, I see a Toshiba for $400 and a SONY for $500. 


With the added capacity of Blue ray, and the support of more movie studios, would not BLUE RAY be the leader?

Or are there other factors I am not considereing?

The one factor I DO like about the HD DVD is they have both standard def and hi-def on the same disc, I'm not sure if the BLUE RAY discs do this or not.....??

The only real "downside I can see is that the Blue Ray discs are thinner, but I pamper my DVD's so this I do not feel will be an issue for me.

What does HD DVD bring with it that BLUE RAY does not?

I have a decent purchace lined up once I can make my mind up.
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How many times must we have this discussion.

Answer: Whenever a newb makes one of his first posts.<rimshot>

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSailorRipley
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Registered: May 9, 2007
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I don't understand, Skip.

What is it that bothers you so much about new people posting about their own interests, even if it has been discussed before? For one, I rather have a new thread with this subject than the current thread which has become a joke with the constant Blu-Ray propaganda.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I don't wish to post as often in these forums as I used to.

What a way to make people feel unwelcome. 

As for the subject at hand, I'm not ready at all to choose a format, I rather wait until the war settles, or the we begin to have better content and not just Hollywood blockbuster fare.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVega
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Couldn't have said it better, Sailor.

Anyway, back to the original post, it's basically too early to pick a winner, broderp.  The reason you see some of the HD-DVD's more expensive is because those are the dual-format discs (both DVD and HD-DVD) so they charge a bit more.  The HD-DVD only versus Blu-ray is always cheaper (at least what I've seen in Target and Best Buy).  And as far as I've seen, Blu-ray has not done any dual format releases (could always be wrong).

Personally, I'm rooting for HD-DVD but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to pick the actual winner I'd probably say Blu-ray will ultimately win.  But I kind of picture this battle going on for another 5-10 years and truthfully neither side may win or lose.  We'll just have to live in a dual-format world because those jackasses couldn't come to an agreement like they did with DVD.

But I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens with the current Blu-ray investigation into unfair business practices.  If anything dirty gets found that could also decide the war.

I think the whole thing is pretty stupid and I plan on purchasing one of the new dual players this Christmas so I can just buy whatever movie in whatever format has the best features and not have to worry about all this crap.  Ya, it's expensive, but it's worth my piece of mind so I don't have to involve myself in this petty corporate "war".
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Completely agree with Vega here.
I've personally started buying HD-DVDs, but only a very few select titles. And I've only started because I got the HD-DVD drive for my Xbox 360, so it was a pretty cheap upgrade.
Each format has it's own advantages and weaknesses, and at the moment their sales are so small compared to the market as a whole it's way too early to declare a winner.
My advice would be unless you can do it really cheap, I'd hold off on upgrading until things start to become clearer.
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Good lord, you people have no snese of humor.

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BD have to win, or at least live on as I have purchased SONY's flagship and it costs me nearly 1/24 of my early income 
Well I have read on a lite bit first and I am confident that BD will live on, only time can tell otherwise.

ceep on posting broderp... 

And Skip you gave me an simular answer to one of my first posts also, I had to go for the intervocative forum to see the erlier posts...  a link could not have hurt 

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Quoting broderp:
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I'm entering the market for a HD player and am a bit mixed up with which format is best or will win the 'war'.


Asking which one that is better and which one that will win the war may not be the same.  And there may never be a so called winner both formats may continue to coexist until the next big entertainment device comes out.

You also need to know not all studios release their movies for both formats.

I've been tempted with the HD player deals of late but, still holding off.  I figure this Christmas might be the year both manufactures offer HUGE savings to get consumers to buy their products.
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I'm not jumping on board either bandwagon yet. Neither format offers anything other than Hollywood blockbuster films or recent releases. There's just nothing there that piques my interest. Once they start offering classic films in larger numbers then, and only then will I decide which format to go with.
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Good lord, you people have no snese of humor.

Skip


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you also lost your ability to spell, or are you taking typing lessons from skip?


there's a whole big home theatre forum right above this one where this question is constant discussion....


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Quoting broderp:
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I'm entering the market for a HD player and am a bit mixed up with which format is best or will win the 'war'.


You won't find an answer here or anwhere else.  No one knows which will win and many are saying that at this ponit, neither will ever die.

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All the reviews I have found are outdated, and some of the facts are either wrong or speculation.


It's nearly impossible to find accurate, unbiased information.  Whenever the topic comes up here or anywhere else, you'll find fanboys from both sides spreading propaganda.  The best you can do is a ton of research.

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I've read

"Blue Ray Player are 2X as expensive as HD DVD"...FALSE, though the are more, I see a Toshiba for $400 and a SONY for $500. 


That obviously depends on which HD DVD player you're looking at, but the entry level model (HD-A2) hasn't been $400 in quite some time.  In fact, it's currently $253 at Amazon.  I got mine from CostCo for $250.  The HD-A20 might be going for around $400, but that's not their low-end model.

If you want more information, visit the General Home Theater Discussion section on this site.  HD DVD vs. Blu-ray is discussed quite a bit over there.
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you also lost your ability to spell, or are you taking typing lessons from skip?

krik


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Quoting broderp:
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I'm entering the market for a HD player and am a bit mixed up with which format is best or will win the 'war'.


The two things are all-but-unrelated which is why there's no point in working out which is better technically and going with that "because, in time it will win"... Betamax was technically better than VHS.
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Personally, I think HD-DVD is preferable, for a number of reasons; not the least of which is that Sony is backing Blu-ray, and I don't like the way Sony does business.  They're as bad in their own way as Microsoft or Intel.
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