I've heard a lot of fussing about Birth Years invading their local database when importing a cast/crew headshot database but very little talk about having the Birth Years in there.

Human nature dictates that people will fuss if they don't like something and will remain quiet if they do like it or simply don't care.  So I'm putting out a poll to get the user preference on the headshot db.

Quoting falcon2099:

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Although I see the benefit of adding birth years, I believe it should be left to only "legal dupes" as we will probably see many many "discussions" on the accuracy of the source of the birth year in question. 

I know that we can "not submit" the BY's if we already have them in our database, but if I'm downloading an update to a DVD that has say 10 BY's included, but I don't want them, then I have no choice to accept them and then fix the actor profiles manually to remove the BY's. (I think...)

Falcon,
If I am reading your post correctly, I think you have the gist of things.  Allow me to throw this out though.  I have a couple of films with big names (eg John Williams and Harry Dean Stanton), there are also porn stars with the same names.  While I have no issue with porn, I know that John Williams would cringe to think of himself or even his music in one.  This is why I like BY.  It allows for actors to be listed with out having to put differentiation at then of their names.

You forgot ONE option, Doc. Simply remove ALL BY data from the Headshot database, it is after all simply an image database and any and ALL extraneous data shoul;d be stripped. Though I still question the ultimate legality of the whole thing to begin with.

While I understand Lord Sith's comments, we have a procedure for dealing with BY data, that does not include automatic propagation from an unverified database and one which is known to cause problems.

Skip

Agrare:

I understand, but (1) I think the problems that have been caused outwigh your point by a long shot, (2) There is still the legal question, the images are generally copyrighted by someone whgo is not being compensated, and sharing of the images can hardly be called "fair use" of copyrighted material. So the important issue to me is the propagation of undocumented BY data, since I have my own headshot collection which poses no issues relative to copyright violation potential.

Skip

Doc, then someone should provide a means of documeting such data. The legality question is not relevant to me. But the undocumented BY data and subsequent importation of garbage into the database which we have already seen is simply unacceptable. See the recent argument over a BY for just on example, how did that data get there that the user was mistakenly trying to propagate. As I said I am not worried about the headshots for myself as I build my own, but if undocumented and bad data is in that headshot database it is worthless and only make me angry when it finds its way into my database. Iknow what you are trying to do and it is a well-meaning objective, but remember that that data affects each and every other user whether they want the headshot or not.

Skip

I for myself have no problem with birth years at all. - I'd like - although I know, I do not follow the majority here - to have alle actors/crew personal supplied with birth years. I'd like a rule which allows to add  every birth year which can be proved - they are simply valuable data...

Regards, AA

He likes the trivia aspect of having Birth Years on a cast/crew profile.

I have to say skip is right, but AA I would like the birthdays, not only the years, in the database.
More out of interest, I know use Wikipedia or even IMDB...

I just don't know why this option of by is actually in the database?
Okay to make a difference between two same named actors/actresses but still, one would see it from the photo if they have the correct one... But that is actually another topic I guess