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How Much Will Offshore Drilling Help?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRico
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If I felt any better I'd be sick!
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Ahh, whatever.  As a country we've shown a remarkable ability to not let facts get in our way.  I can't imagine how this chart would do anything to sully that sterling track record.
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Yeah, right!
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So let's fast forward when the politcos, make a big deal about new drilling. I'll bet tune-ups & tire checking & slowing down would save more.


Just checked my 'Reputation' I earned a RED arrow, for posting a graph, wow! The arrow system at it's finest.
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So let's fast forward when the politcos, make a big deal about new drilling. I'll bet tune-ups & tire checking & slowing down would save more.


This is a joke right?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Hilarious!       
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Which part is a joke?

I'd have to agree on the drilling thing as being something of a joke.  It takes all of about 10 minutes of research to find out that it'll solve next to nothing.  Sure makes a great sound bite though and we do love to elect based on sound bites.  Lipstick on a pig and all.
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Which part is a joke?

I'd have to agree on the drilling thing as being something of a joke.  It takes all of about 10 minutes of research to find out that it'll solve next to nothing.  Sure makes a great sound bite though and we do love to elect based on sound bites.  Lipstick on a pig and all.


If you use the left wing blog sites for your research, I'm sure you're right!
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Ahhh, gotcha.
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The important thing to remember is graphs should not receive red arrows. Really guys this new drilling thing is being played up way to much. Akin to mountain & mole hill analogy. Politicized drilling is huge, & only the left is against it. While in truth the impact from new offshore drilling is minimal at best.

So slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, is a rational approach.
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The important thing to remember is graphs should not receive red arrows. Really guys this new drilling thing is being played up way to much. Akin to mountain & mole hill analogy. Politicized drilling is huge, & only the left is against it. While in truth the impact from new offshore drilling is minimal at best.

So slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, is a rational approach.


Sorry, but I just cannot take these kind of comments seriously. 
Hal
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The important thing to remember is graphs should not receive red arrows. Really guys this new drilling thing is being played up way to much. Akin to mountain & mole hill analogy. Politicized drilling is huge, & only the left is against it. While in truth the impact from new offshore drilling is minimal at best.

So slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, is a rational approach.

There's no point to this.  Ironically, even John McCain acknowledged these facts back in June, but the righties will never accept it because it sounds like a "sissy" answer.  It's a heckuva way to decide national policy, but there it is.  Maybe it'll take four more years to figure it out.  Hard to say.
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It occurs to me I made a mistake in my previous comment.  It could be construed that I was implying that the Rightie solution was always wrong and the Lefty solution was always correct.  What I was really referring to was the politicization of actual important issues and then actually creating policy based on the sound bites.

Look, it's one thing to craft a short catchy message, but it's another to turn the pithy slogan into actual national policy.  Both sides do it and it's dumbing things down to the point where serious stuff is going seriously wrong.  It's well past time we collectively grew up.  What's the point of winning if we all end up paying for it?  This scorched earth approach isn't doing anyone any favors.
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The important thing to remember is graphs should not receive red arrows. Really guys this new drilling thing is being played up way to much. Akin to mountain & mole hill analogy. Politicized drilling is huge, & only the left is against it. While in truth the impact from new offshore drilling is minimal at best.

So slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, is a rational approach.

There's no point to this.  Ironically, even John McCain acknowledged these facts back in June, but the righties will never accept it because it sounds like a "sissy" answer.  It's a heckuva way to decide national policy, but there it is.  Maybe it'll take four more years to figure it out.  Hard to say.


It's an impractical answer not a "sissy" answer.  I fully support people doing these things.........voluntarily.

HOWEVER....

There's no way to implement or enforce this kind of stuff (other than speed limits and we've been there before)!  What are you going to do?  Set up checkpoints and pull people over to check their tire pressure and last oil change date!  It's absurd.

If you plan the future of the country's energy policy on getting people to do these things, we will all go down in flames!

Personally, I support the T. Boone Pickens plan.  Do everything!
Hal
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The main problem I have with the Democrat's approach is this:  Maybe drilling offshore or at ANWR won't help much and will take time before we get any oil at all.  I just don't think that's a reason NOT to do it at all.  It's all well and good to talk about alternate sources of energy, new technology to eliminate use of carbon-based fuels, etc., but all of THOSE solutions will take years and won't solve the problem we face today.  For the forseeable future we need to have access to petroleum products. Even if we take every conservation method known today (e.g., slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, etc.) we still need a supply of petroleum to survive.

So I agree with Hal who supports Pickens' (which also happens to be the policy espoused by McCain): Do Everything.
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The main problem I have with the Democrat's approach is this:  Maybe drilling offshore or at ANWR won't help much and will take time before we get any oil at all.  I just don't think that's a reason NOT to do it at all.  It's all well and good to talk about alternate sources of energy, new technology to eliminate use of carbon-based fuels, etc., but all of THOSE solutions will take years and won't solve the problem we face today.  For the forseeable future we need to have access to petroleum products. Even if we take every conservation method known today (e.g., slowing down tuneups & pump the tires up, etc.) we still need a supply of petroleum to survive.

So I agree with Hal who supports Pickens' (which also happens to be the policy espoused by McCain): Do Everything.


The fact is that Congress has blocked offshore drilling for the past 30 years.  If it had been permitted, today's problems could have been mitigated to some degree and we would not now have to wait years to get useable oil from these areas.

The argument that we shouldn't do it because we won't see any results for the next several years is simply ludicrous on its face.
Hal
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There's no way to implement or enforce this kind of stuff

There is ... increase the gas prices until the people are forced to reason.

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