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Disney Combo packs: Blu-ray or Box set?
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I am looking at some opinions on the new Disney Combo packs which include a Blu-ray Disc, DVD Disc and digital copy, Bolt for example.  I was adding disc IDs and for now did it as:

Main Feature: Blu-Ray  <id>
Main Feature: DVD <id>

To the parent profile which is where all the information currently is located and the profile is listed as a Blu-Ray.

However, later in thinking about it I was wondering if the main UPC should be a box set with the Blu-ray and  DVD having separate child profiles by Disc ID and the digital copy being a feature of the parent box set.  The DVD actually has more audio tracks then the Blu-Ray version for additional languages which started me thinking on this.
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tkinnen:

Obviously this wasn't anticipated several years ago.  However. I would not call these critters Boxsets, since they are not dealing multiple films, but multiple "versions" of the SAME film. You can check BOTH the BD Checkbox AND the DVD Checkbox. I think we will see more and more of the Combos going forward.

However< I will say that your points relative to the Audio a very valid points. I'll think about it some more and see what other input we get.

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This is similar to the HD DVD combo discs where you have a DVD version of the movie on one side and an HD DVD on the other. The audio tracks and features are almost always different and sometimes it is not even the same print. Animal House for example had different aspect ratios for each version.

On one hand I am inclined to have a child profile for the DVD version of the film, on the other I am not sure if it is worth the extra work.

I guess my suggestion would be, when or if changes are made to accomodate combo format releases (on one disc or two) to have the main profile be for the Blu-ray/HD DVD only and then create a child profile for accompanying DVD versions of the film. Not really a Box-set, more of a mutant-hybrid.

We will definately be seeing more of these down the road, especially if they ever work out the kinks for Blu-ray/DVD combo discs.

Only a suggestion, I am not married to it.

BTW skippy, you cannot check both the BD and DVD formats. Checking one unchecks the other. You can only check two formats for HD DVD/DVD. I think this is because there is no such thing as a banner for Blu-ray/DVD combo discs and so that option was not necessary. Also HD DVD did not have regions the way Blu-ray does, regions that would necessarily be different from any included DVD.
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Well, how about that Bobby. I don't recall that being true with the HD Combos, but it may have been, but the HD Combos were fairly common. Thta certainly throws a kink in things...can you say 3.6...I knew that you could.

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More often than not, they just stuck whatever the most recent DVD release of the film was on the DVD side. Kind of like the DVD version that was included in last week's The Princess Bride Blu-ray was the 20th anniversary version that came out in 2007.

In any case it would be good to have a consensus or plan of action for dealing with these. Something that could also be applied to the HD DVD combo discs, obsolete though they may be, would be ideal in my opinion.
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My suggestion is to just keep a main profile with all the info. Then if you wish to have more detailed info on the DVD, attach a child profile for the DVD.

My guess is most who buy the blu-ray package will be less interested in the DVD anyway. If you make this a boxset I would have 2 or 3 profiles for some blu-ray, which I would like to avoid.
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I would set up the UPC profile to the blu-ray specs and folks could have the option of adding a Disc ID profile for the DVD info. That's what we did for HD DVD-DVD Combos...although I'm not sure if anyone went to the trouble of submitting Disc ID profiles for the DVD.
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The DVD is a bonus disc.  It clearly says "Bonus" on the ones I've looked at.  So, enter them as BD, and include the DVD as bonus material, and this question goes away.

This is clearly a marketing ploy to get people to change over to Blu-Ray, and as more people do change we'll see fewer of these combo deals.
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I would class it as a bonus film as well (like the Ben-Hur example in the rules).
That way those who want the DVD info will have it on the child profile and those who don't, don't have to add that profile to their collection.
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I would also say, the people buying this are mostly interested in the Blu-ray, so my sugegstion is to add it as Blu-ray, the DVD is more of a bonus as others stated here already.

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How the Sleeping Beauty Blu-ray with bonus DVD was handled last fall:

Main profile: Blu-ray
Child profile: Bonus DVD version

And the Disc ID of the child was added to the Main profile so people would know it existed.
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I would class it as a bonus film as well (like the Ben-Hur example in the rules).
That way those who want the DVD info will have it on the child profile and those who don't, don't have to add that profile to their collection.


That's how I think I would deal with it too. Main profile is the BluRay with a DVD 'child profile' for attaching if you want it.
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I would class it as a bonus film as well (like the Ben-Hur example in the rules).
That way those who want the DVD info will have it on the child profile and those who don't, don't have to add that profile to their collection.

Your comparison is both incorrect and invalid. The Ben-Hur exception was designed for two movies which carry the Same Title but are two TOTALLY different films, in this case the silent version and the Heston version. It was not intended to allow for multiple copies of the SAME film in a set. THough this may be the best answer. I just want to make sure that you understand the original purpose AND the difference between say Bolt and Ben-Hur.

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I would class it as a bonus film as well (like the Ben-Hur example in the rules).
That way those who want the DVD info will have it on the child profile and those who don't, don't have to add that profile to their collection.

I would do it this way as well.  While they are the exact same film, just different versions, the DVD version is a 'Bonus Feature Film'.  In the Bolt example, the DVD version of the film is listed under the 'Bonus Features'.  Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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IMO the bonus film rule would fit best.
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