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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have a slight problem with the credits for "Secretary".
There is a credited for Based on (which qualifies for OMB) and a credited for Screenplay by (which qualifies for Screenwriter). But inbetween these two there's a credit called "Story adapted by".
How should this be handled? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Based on my layman's understanding, what we have is a story that was adapted from the original material. If it were me, I would use 'Story by'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's either story by or OMB, depending on how strictly folks want to interpret story by. Personally, I lean towards a strict interpretation of story by and give adaption credits an OMB.
It's been mentioned before, but the adaption process can often times introduce signficant elements that finally appear onscreen. Primarily, you see a number of smaller characters being compressed into single characters. Locations and extraneous plot points tend to be compressed as well. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would leave it out. As far as I understand the credit (not being native English speaking) the credit is the same as 'adaptation by' (it's only an adaptation of the original story) and we don't credit that (as far as I know).
If you want it in, it should be under a custom role (not contributable). Anything else would be shoehorning in my opinion. | | | 
The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | | Last edited: by reybr |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I usually leave those "in-between" credits out to be on the safe side. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | I usually just leave them out also, or keep them local. | | | | Corey |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
I would leave it out. As far as I understand the credit (not being native English speaking) the credit is the same as 'adaptation by' (it's only an adaptation of the original story) and we don't credit that (as far as I know).
If you want it in, it should be under a custom role (not contributable). Anything else would be shoehorning in my opinion. I always add it. The adaption is the step between the original, presumably unfilmable work, and the final screenplay. Typically, its the adaption that actually makes the source material filmable. Without it, the project would have never gone forward. We don't see that credit now as often, but when it shows up, it indicates a significant contribution to the final filmed story. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
It's either story by or OMB, depending on how strictly folks want to interpret story by. Personally, I lean towards a strict interpretation of story by and give adaption credits an OMB.
It's been mentioned before, but the adaption process can often times introduce signficant elements that finally appear onscreen. Primarily, you see a number of smaller characters being compressed into single characters. Locations and extraneous plot points tend to be compressed as well. I wouldn't have thought of OMB (as you can see by my poll  ), because the writer of the original book would get this credit. An adaption would in my eyes never be an original. Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
The adaption is the step between the original, presumably unfilmable work, and the final screenplay. Typically, its the adaption that actually makes the source material filmable. You have a point here, but still I don't see the OMB as clearly as you do. I agree that a strict interpretation of "Story By" would exclude this option, but wouldn't a strict interpretation of OMB exclude this option too? This would then leave the options: Screenwriter or Don't enter | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | The use of OMB goes back to when we only had the two choices. If it wasn't a screenplay/written, then it was OMB. Story doesn't get the job done because it implies a work not based on some alternate source.
Look, if the Wright brothers invent the airplane and somebody later comes along and designs the F-16 based on the original idea of powered flight, how would you credit it? Depending on the adaption, the finished product may only have the title in common with the original work. If you're going to credit the adaption, then OMB is the only thing that makes sense. No rule that says you have to credit the adaption, though. You were just soliciting opinions, so I gave mine. | | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
The use of OMB goes back to when we only had the two choices. If it wasn't a screenplay/written, then it was OMB. Story doesn't get the job done because it implies a work not based on some alternate source.
Look, if the Wright brothers invent the airplane and somebody later comes along and designs the F-16 based on the original idea of powered flight, how would you credit it? Depending on the adaption, the finished product may only have the title in common with the original work. If you're going to credit the adaption, then OMB is the only thing that makes sense. No rule that says you have to credit the adaption, though. You were just soliciting opinions, so I gave mine. Thanks for this,  what I wanted to know his how to enter this specific credit, and now I wish I could change poll options. You definitely have a point, even though I personally tend to omitting this credit. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
I have a slight problem with the credits for "Secretary".
There is a credited for Based on (which qualifies for OMB) and a credited for Screenplay by (which qualifies for Screenwriter). But inbetween these two there's a credit called "Story adapted by".
How should this be handled? While it is common habit to enter it, 'based on' does not qualify for OMB according to the current wording of the rules. The rules need to be fixed here. I would handle the in between 'story adapted by' like the preceding credit which is in this case 'based on'. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
While it is common habit to enter it, 'based on' does not qualify for OMB according to the current wording of the rules. The rules need to be fixed here.
I would handle the in between 'story adapted by' like the preceding credit which is in this case 'based on'. Ooops, sometimes it helps to read the rules You're correct according to the rules as they exist only an explicit "Original Material By" qualifies for an OMB credit. I'm not sure I've ever seen this, but so be it. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | This came up recently in an update to a title I can't recall, but the "adapted by" got an OMB credit and everyone voted yes (it was clearly mentioned in the notes, so unless no one read they knew what they were voting on).
Of course I can't say for sure that was right, but it seemed O.K., esp. since it only had the adpadted credit and not a true OMB or based on.
Hopefully I'll remember what that was soon, but I'm drawing a complete blank right now. |
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