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Looney Tunes Golden Collection: Boxset or not?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
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I just made a contribution for Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume Three adding cast and crew for each short with dividers.

To my surprise I got a no vote with the following reason: "Hate to be a spoil sport, but these are theatrical shorts and should be a boxset with child profiles."

Is the voter correct? Should it be a boxset (There are currently no child profiles in the DB) or could it be treated with optional child profiles?

And if this should be a box set, then the Walt Disney Treasure cartoon sets should also be box sets?

Any thought or comments?

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Each one is a fold-out custom case with a slip cover.  Each disc contains a collection of shorts or cartoons.  Not every short was theatrical.
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Each one is a fold-out custom case with a slip cover.  Each disc contains a collection of shorts or cartoons.  Not every short was theatrical.

Well, technically every short was theatrical because the only content that counts is the actual cartoons.  Anything else is a featurette.

That being said, I can go either way with this.  While I would probably attempt the child thing personally, I can see where folks might try to do a TV thing where the info gets repeated across both parent and child profiles.
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Ace_of_Sevens stated in the contribution votes that each short doesn't have it's own disc so it doesn't exactly fit the box-set definition.
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Yeah, like I said I can go either way with this.  The two-disk chronological Stooges sets are done as strictly box affairs, with each disc containing maybe a dozen shorts separated by dividers.  The parent is basically blank.  It just depends on what your point of reference is.
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Ace_of_Sevens stated in the contribution votes that each short doesn't have it's own disc so it doesn't exactly fit the box-set definition.

Oh please, you aren't serious, doc.

Fits the definition of either boxset or TV series.

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You were serious.        

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I would treat it like a TV box set.
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Personally, I'd like it to be a box set.  I even remember checking for children every so often for them.  But that's my own personal preference.  Note that one of the profiles IS a box set with children.
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I've seen the Walt Disney Treasures and Pixar shorts done the same way with dividers, they were all approved and I see nothing wrong with it.
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I was the one who voted no since these were theatrical shorts and then later shown on TV, just like the Three Stooges were. What I would recomend the user to do is to spilt it up with the child profiles, this way all the hard work doesn't go to waste.
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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Ace_of_Sevens stated in the contribution votes that each short doesn't have it's own disc so it doesn't exactly fit the box-set definition.

Oh please, you aren't serious, doc.

Fits the definition of either boxset or TV series.

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It's not a TV series, since the vast majority of these shorts are theatrical shorts; just because they happened to be collected into programs for Saturday morning airing later on doesn't make them TV shows.  Same thing for the Stooges.

I think it does fit into the box set rules as they're written--it's any release containing more than one film.  The three classes listed are examples and don't seem to be limiting or defining what constitutes a box set.

OTOH, I am not sure what's to be gained here since I doubt anyone's going to bother to profile each of the cartoons (the first 4 volumes of the latest Stooges set do have proper child profiles with cast and crew for each short) because that's a lot of effort basically for listing Mel Blanc (voice) over and over again.  But if you want to profile 'em all, then live it up.  I won't vote no.
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I know they were Theatrically released, gar, some of them YEARS before TV, which is why i tend to go with the Boxset concept. And as has been noted there are already a number of similar profiles already in the database. But I can see the TV STYLE argument, not because they were shown on TV that is irrelevant, but because they are set-up on the disc in similar fashion to a TV series. But I tend to go with the boxset concept.

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oops

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All of the reasons we don't treat TV series the same as box sets apply here. Besides, the rules say a box set contains one movie per disc or side.
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Ace brings up a good point.  The rules define a 'Box set' as any release that includes more than one film.  There is nothing about a 'theatrical release'.  The B5 film collection didn't have a theatrical release, yet we treat it as a box set, not a TV series set.  The same is true for the Alien Nation film collection.

These are shorts, not films.
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