so i was watching my usual diet of cheesy horror movies when i came across the following issue with a screen credit.

the film in question was Hack!

in the credits at the start of the film, Roger Chingirian receives a credit as DoP, however in the end credits he receives a credit of Cinematographer.

so how should i credit him?



and just to confuse things i checked how the US r1 release dealt with this issue, in that profile he is credited twice - once for each role.



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and for another issue, the production designer is credited differently in the credits as well,
start credits - john hartman
end credits - john o. hartman 

Quoting ninehours:

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Would the end credits take precedence over the opening credits?

Although that part of the rules only mentions the cast, I would say that the same should be applied to crew as well.

I would also enter both credits, and look up the common name to use the credited as feature for 1 of the credits.

I would enter them as I see them in the credits, mistakes and all...just as we do with obvious Overview errors.

A person with both a DOP and Cinematographer credit could be a mistake, or was simply entered that way on purpose originally. But how would we know one way or the other really?

The same person credited twice as Production Designer is almost surely an error, but I agree with Unicus...it's worth recording the fact.

Quoting RHo:

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Entering him twice for the what is the same role with a different name variant would be wrong. I would prefer director of photography but would not vote against cinematographer.

Wrong based on what?  The rules say to "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits."  I see no exception that says, "unless they are listed twice with a differetn name variant and a different role for the same job." 

I'm responsible for the R1 profile. I can't recall if I asked this question when auditing it or how I got it in my head that both should be credited, probably from how we handle it from cast and other crew, where every role gets a credit.
I don't recall him having a different name in the end credits though. Give me a few, and I'll re-audit the R1 to double-check and add the rest of the crew. My previous audit was on the old software without the effects and media companies.

Quoting bigdaddyhorse:

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How is the R2 dvd zwoti? The R1 is decent (1.78 anamorphic WS, 2.0 sound, pretty clear transfer for a cheapy disc), but only has the trailer for any extras. Does the R2 have any other features? dvdcompare doesn't know it exists yet, they say R1 is the only version known.

the r2 release is the same.

the current profile states it is 1.85 anamorphic but i will be checking that before i make the contribution.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Quoting RHo:

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Entering him twice for the what is the same role with a different name variant would be wrong. I would prefer director of photography but would not vote against cinematographer.

Wrong based on what?  The rules say to "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits."  I see no exception that says, "unless they are listed twice with a differetn name variant and a different role for the same job." 

We often find crew members credited twice exactly the same way once in the opening credits and again in the end credits. Do we list those people twice as well?