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How To Become An Eagle Scout |
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| Registered: April 8, 2007 |  Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | "Magic Massage Bra"???  |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | As an Eagle Scout I'm surprised their council approved this, since all projects need council approval. Also 12 years old is too young for Eagle Scout, since they've been in scouts for 1 year. It can be done in 16 months, but where's the fun in that? Also if they read their project workbook it states, "The project is an individual matter; therefore, two Eagle Scout candidates may not receive credit for working on the same project." | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | First, this isn't real. The video is from The Onion. Although not meeting the project requirements and the atrocious uniforming (rank and position on the right sleeve?) should have been dead giveaways.
That said...
12 isn't too young, technically. There's no age requirements for anything in Boy Scouts. You can start working on your project as soon as you attain the rank of Life. There's no time requirement for T-2-1 (other than the 30-day exercise requirement), 4 months for Star and 6 months for Life. Anyone can earn Life while 12. I did at 12 years and 4 months (and back then there were T-2-1 time requirements), meaning I could have earned Eagle as early as 12 years 10 months (I was 17, got distracted by other things along the way).
Joe
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| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nolesrule: Quote:
First, this isn't real. The video is from The Onion. Although not meeting the project requirements and the atrocious uniforming (rank and position on the right sleeve?) should have been dead giveaways.
That said...
12 isn't too young, technically. There's no age requirements for anything in Boy Scouts. You can start working on your project as soon as you attain the rank of Life. There's no time requirement for T-2-1 (other than the 30-day exercise requirement), 4 months for Star and 6 months for Life. Anyone can earn Life while 12. I did at 12 years and 4 months (and back then there were T-2-1 time requirements), meaning I could have earned Eagle as early as 12 years 10 months (I was 17, got distracted by other things along the way).
Joe
Eagle '94 I found out it was the Onion after I did some looking around on the web, should have done that first.  I was also 17 when I got my Eagle. but was Life for about 2 years. The reason I believe 12 is too young, is because scouting should be fun, not just working towards Eagle. I know if I had made Eagle at 12 I wouldn't have stayed in Scouts, which would me lead to not join the OA and wouldn't have attended the '97 Jamboree, since I wouldn't be in the scouts anymore. Mike Eagle '97 | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, that's understandable. But if a kid is motivated, don't hold him back, or he also might quit. I joined OA at 11 and went to the 1989 Jamboree at 12. Worked as summer camp staff at 15. Currently I volunteer at the district level to keep my OA membership active (and hopefully the kid due in less than 4 months will be a boy).
It's not all about advancement. If the troop runs a good program, doing activities that the boys want to do (rather than just easy car camping), the boys will generally stick around. They leave when it gets stale. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nolesrule: Quote:
Well, that's understandable. But if a kid is motivated, don't hold him back, or he also might quit. I joined OA at 11 and went to the 1989 Jamboree at 12. Worked as summer camp staff at 15. Currently I volunteer at the district level to keep my OA membership active (and hopefully the kid due in less than 4 months will be a boy).
It's not all about advancement. If the troop runs a good program, doing activities that the boys want to do (rather than just easy car camping), the boys will generally stick around. They leave when it gets stale. Definitely agree... but I do feel that i is important for the parents and Scout leaders to make sure the Scout is ready. In most cases, a 12 or 13 year old boy just doesn't have the maturity to earn Eagle on his own. Also agree on advancement. If a Scout stays active in the program, advancement just happens. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's the deal on when a scout is ready. Eagle Scout isn't about maturity, it's about completing requirements. When someone shows me a maturity requirement, then I'll agree, but there's no adding to or subtracting from requirements.
Besides, if a scout can successfully plan, develop, and give leadership to others in a service project helpful to any religious institution, school, or community that has been preapproved by the scoutmaster, the troop committee and the district or council then they are "mature" enough.
Interestingly enough, the requirements for ranks and all merit badges are designed to be of appropriate difficulty for anyone to complete while they are in middle school. The BSA has a program with advancement designed for ages older than that. It's called Venturing.
FYI, I'm a unit commissioner and ADC, and I recently had to tell one of the troops I serve that they couldn't tell a scout that he could not start on his project until he was 14. They were going to make him sit on his butt twiddling his thumbs for 8 months for no reason whatsoever. |
|  | kemper | | Vodka martini... shaken.. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 402 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nolesrule: Quote:
(I was 17, got distracted by other things along the way).
Joe
Eagle '94 The fumes i guess.... Perfumes and gas fumes?  Anyway.... this could be a legit Eagle project if done correctly, ie. the Scout working with a local medical school or health department to offer onsite exams by qualified medical personel. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, it probably would not get approved, for the same reason that the BSA is now discouraging blood drives as projects. There isn't much planning, development and leadership involved in a project such as this. All you are doing is asking some people to show up at a certain time and place. In addition, it is benefiting indivduals (those being checked) not a religious institution, school or community. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well my Eagle Project was doing a flag burning ceremony. I did research at the library on the proper method and attended local VFW meetings to find out how they did it, but they wouldn't donate any flags, since they did their own ceremony. I also got local stores to donate materials needed and it went as planned. | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's a good project that benefits the community, and required more than just some phone calls. It requires service work that scouts can do themselves.
My project involved building shiva benches, which are special short chairs that Jews sit on in their homes during the week of mourning after a close loved one has died. Funeral homes tended to provide ugly cardboard-based "boxes" for this use. I designed a traditional wooden one, got money donated from the synogague for materials and constructed and finished them with the help of scouts and family. They were given into possession of the local Jewish funeral home on behalf of my synagogue because that made the most sense for long-term use.
Unfortunately, they are no longer around. The funeral home stored them in a non climate controlled garage (they were designed for indoor use), and eventually, the wood succumbed to the elements. |
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