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| Registered: April 8, 2007 |  Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ah, more political debate. Have we learned nothing? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: April 8, 2007 | | Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not a political debate! Someone who holds political office, is a jerk! Are your trying to debate otherwise? Or are you trying to make it a political debate?The text does not assign political party. I find it frightening (regardless of affiliation) that someone like this can get elected.
Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I guess you missed the debate back when Proposition 8 was on the California ballot. While you find it frightening, there are people that agree with him. We have people from both groups in this forum. This issue has moral, religious and political overtones. As such, it is off-topic in these forums. I am surprised that it hasn't been removed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: April 8, 2007 | | Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | This has nothing to do with California election ballot measures. Maybe some here agree with the Senator, but none here can affect the live of individuals, like this man can. Seems like your trying to expand the Senators meaning. You (no matter how badly you want to) are not the decider, of what flies in this forum. Your remark of surprise, that removal has not occurred, seems like yet another attempt by you to stir up the flames. I'll await your throwing more gasoline on this!
Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | I thought political discussion had been outlawed in the forums. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote:
I thought political discussion had been outlawed in the forums. As did I, which is all I was pointing out. Seems Rico, for whatever reason, seems to get upset whenever that little fact is pointed out.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote:
This has nothing to do with California election ballot measures. Maybe some here agree with the Senator, but none here can affect the live of individuals, like this man can. Seems like your trying to expand the Senators meaning. He is one senator. The effect he has on the lives of individuals is limited...1 man, 1 vote...unless, of course, he finds like minded individuals...which is what happened in California. Quote:
You (no matter how badly you want to) are not the decider, of what flies in this forum. You are correct, that is up to the moderators. I can, as a member of these forums, express my opinion as to what is and isn't allowed based on my understanding of the rules Ken implimented. Quote:
Your remark of surprise, that removal has not occurred, seems like yet another attempt by you to stir up the flames. I'll await your throwing more gasoline on this! My remark of surprise was exactly that. I have seen less controversial posts deleted so was surprised that this one wasn't. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: April 8, 2007 | | Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is not a political discussion, this is about a misguided individual you for some reason got elected. This Senator is supposed to represent all people from that state, not a subset.
What's your point here Unicus? Either you agree or disagree with the Senator from Pennsylvania.
Should Mr. Eichelberger be a 'auto mechanic' or a 'politician' he's someone I DO NOT LIKE. I believe it's fair to point out (to the community) that a person in POWER voices this kind of behavior.
Furthermore, Unicus! I believe you will argue, to the point until total exhaustion occurs, & then you can claim victory, last man to post wins. You exhibit that you can't lose, it's okay to be wrong.
The only question is do you want to side with the Senator from Pennsylvania, or not?
Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote:
This is not a political discussion, this is about a misguided individual you for some reason got elected. This Senator is supposed to represent all people from that state, not a subset. Everything you just said can be said about any position that a politician takes that not everyone in his/her state agrees with. "Misguided" is a value judgement. I'm sure many of his constituents agree with him and many don't. Quoting Rico: Quote:
That's your point here Unicus? Either you agree or disagree with the Senator from Pennsylvania. Any such agreement or disagreement is politically based. Quoting Rico: Quote:
Should Mr. Eichelberger be a 'auto mechanic' or a 'politician' he's someone I DO NOT LIKE. I believe it's fair to point out (to the community) that a person in POWER voices this kind of behavior. Not liking an elected official is a political judgment. Pointing it out to the community is political. Quoting Rico: Quote:
The only question is do you want to side with the Senator from Pennsylvania, or not? It's an inappropriate question to ask in a forum that bans political discussion. That's all unicus has tried to point out. This thread has nowhere to go but bad. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks, James, for explaining it better than I obviously did. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: April 8, 2007 | | Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote:
This thread has nowhere to go but bad. And you think your comments, are constructive? Quote:
It's an inappropriate question to ask in a forum that bans political discussion. That's all unicus has tried to point out.
Well the questioon still stands, & (i've made my opinion public), & The judges are still out, as to whether, a ban should be imposed. Are you & Unicus so CLOSE that you speak for him? Or perhaps you just see things more clearly than others  Quote:
Not liking an elected official is a political judgment. Pointing it out to the community is political. Wrong Amigo! Not liking this individual is my opinion. Pointing it out to the community; states my view, (anyone out there agree with me) this politican is a jerk? Quoting Rico: Quote:
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That's your point here Unicus? Either you agree or disagree with the Senator from Pennsylvania.
Any such agreement or disagreement is politically based.
Quoting Rico:
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Should Mr. Eichelberger be a 'auto mechanic' or a 'politician' he's someone I DO NOT LIKE. I believe it's fair to point out (to the community) that a person in POWER voices this kind of behavior.
Not liking an elected official is a political judgment. Pointing it out to the community is political. OMG! How can you agree or dis-agree, that humans should be allowed to exist. | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | 1. Eichelberger is scum. And I feel bad insulting the pond scum.
2. However, I believe political topics of any sort were banned, because they have inevitably caused a lot of disagreement and very bad vibes around the forum, so Unicus and James are right to point out that posting a political topic is not for this forum - and that doesn't mean that they agree or disagree with Eichelberger. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rico: Quote:
Wrong Amigo! Not liking this individual is my opinion. Pointing it out to the community; states my view, (anyone out there agree with me) this politican is a jerk?
If writing that you feel "... this politician is a jerk..." is not the makings of a political thread, then what is? Your logic completely eludes me. Please do not discuss politics. I get enough of it at work every day. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 360 |
| | Posted: | | | | Amen Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Quoting Rico:
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Wrong Amigo! Not liking this individual is my opinion. Pointing it out to the community; states my view, (anyone out there agree with me) this politican is a jerk?
If writing that you feel "... this politician is a jerk..." is not the makings of a political thread, then what is?
Your logic completely eludes me.
Please do not discuss politics. I get enough of it at work every day. |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | As posted, political topics are not allowed. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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