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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I haven't seen it before so I thought I'd ask. The current contribution for "Hot Wheels - Highway 35: World Race" has the TM symbols on the cover so the contribution is changing it to "Hot Wheels™ World Race™".
Do we include trademark/etc symbols if possible? There is no mention of it in the contribution rules.
Without, the new title (based on the cover) would be "Hot Wheels World Race" or potentially "Hot Wheels: World Race". |
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  | Eagle | | Registered: Oct 31, 2001 |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 563 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMHO, I would leave them out. When speaking the title, you don't say "Hot Wheels TM World Race TM"...you would say "Hot Wheels World Race". I think the trademarks are extraneous data in terms of the title. I would also leave out the colon, as it is not included as part of the title in either the overview or the title block on the rear cover.
I do agree this should be clarified in the rules. | | | | My phpDVDprofiler collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe the TM symbol will work, Doc. My statement is simple, ;it's visible on the cover...it's part of the title,. We do it with Overview daata.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Eagle: Quote:
IMHO, I would leave them out. When speaking the title, you don't say "Hot Wheels TM World Race TM"...you would say "Hot Wheels World Race". I think the trademarks are extraneous data in terms of the title. I would also leave out the colon, as it is not included as part of the title in either the overview or the title block on the rear cover.
I do agree this should be clarified in the rules. Generally speaking, the way the film makers spell their title in the credit block and overview or generally in the context of normal text, is a good indicator which of those fancy graphics and symbols on the front cover are actually part of the title and which are only graphical sugar added to the design of the cover. The same way in which we use normal capitalisation rules for the title, we leave out graphical sugar which is not actually part of the title. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Let me refer all to a thread from April ( Handling of Special Characters in the Title) and if you don't want to read all 17 pages here's links to Gerri's and then Ken's comments in the last couple pages... Quoting Gerri Cole:Quote:
For the purposes of special characters in the titles, if you can type it on a normal keyboard without using an upper ASCII character, then you can use it. So in this case, M*A*S*H would work, but the dots in between the letters in FRIENDS would not be appropriate. Quoting Ken Cole:Quote:
Wherever practical, I think a filter would be able to cut out some of the confusion. For instance, we already have "•" becomes "-".
I'd love to be able to formulate a simple policy about when to use a character for symbol and when to leave it out. The key is whether a character is intended, and whether a suitable character exists. To me, I would say that the dots shown in FRIENDS are for display only and not intended as a character, whereas the "•" in WALL•E is clearly intended as a character, which by filter becomes WALL-E.
The botom line is that our title rule is not intended to make the title look exactly like the title on the cover (we have cover scans for that), but to portray the title shown in standard characters. Edit: realized i was referencing a Contribution Rules Committee thread that not all have access to (though you only need to ask) so i added the text of the referenced messages | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! | | | | Last edited: by tweeter |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Frankly I would leave them out.
If we do this we are going to open a can of worms.
For instance I just looked at the front covers of the Star Trek movies and there is the TM mark, so does the Spider-Man movies.
The Star Wars movies has that little R in the circle right next to the word Star Wars.
Are we going to start adding those too? |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Frankly I would leave them out.
If we do this we are going to open a can of worms.
For instance I just looked at the front covers of the Star Trek movies and there is the TM mark, so does the Spider-Man movies.
The Star Wars movies has that little R in the circle right next to the word Star Wars.
Are we going to start adding those too? Agree 100%. The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones, The Incredible Hulk, Ghost Rider... etc, etc, etc. No need to start that. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
Quoting CubbyUps:
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Frankly I would leave them out.
If we do this we are going to open a can of worms.
For instance I just looked at the front covers of the Star Trek movies and there is the TM mark, so does the Spider-Man movies.
The Star Wars movies has that little R in the circle right next to the word Star Wars.
Are we going to start adding those too?
Agree 100%.
The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones, The Incredible Hulk, Ghost Rider... etc, etc, etc.
No need to start that. Couldn't agree more - leave them out | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | I gather most of this discussion concerns the Title field -- which I agree does not require tradmark symbols.
But if we are discussing Overview text, I believe we SHOULD show those symbols. The concensus seems to be to use the registered copyright symbol ( ® ), especially when we refer to Academy and other awards. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's about the title field. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
It's about the title field. Then I agree -- leave the trademark symbol out. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,230 |
| | Posted: | | | | Does this apply to accented characters such as in Léon, where the cover shows the é but it's impossible to type this on a normal English keyboard? |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Nosferatu: Quote:
Does this apply to accented characters such as in Léon, where the cover shows the é but it's impossible to type this on a normal English keyboard? It's easy to type on a normal English Keyboard AltGr + e |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,230 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks - I didn't know that! |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Posts: 384 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with the leave them out camp.  | | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
It's easy to type on a normal English Keyboard
AltGr + e Not so! What's the "AltGr" key? |
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