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DVD format on the way out?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorStaid S Barr
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Something I haven't noticed before (doesn't mean it didn't happen of course).

Next week (October 6) a new release BD will come out (Imagine That, Eddie Murphy, 2009) but there is no indication at Amazon or other online shops I checked that a DVD version will be released on the same or any later date. Until now, for new releases I have always seen both at the same time, unless the DVD was released earlier.

Is DVD going the way of VLP, VHS etcetera already? 

(I am supposing this has nothing to do with the generally negative criticism of the actual movie).
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The industry might try to force this but I don't think that the bulk of the customers are ready for this. Prices for DVDs are on a good low while BRs cost as much as DVDs many years ago. But DVD is not VHS. There's no tape decay and the picture looks good on most TVs.

So while I think that BR will come through eventually (I don't own a single one yet), it will take more time than this.
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The hardware is reasonably priced but the added cost of an HDTV can negate this. I also find even with my 40 inch screen sitting up close to the screen. That most most DVD's upscaled to 720p look good enough. Another problem the discs remain even for most back catlog titles at a premimum price.

This is reflected in the nielsen sales data which shows that only certain titles which can easily be associated with a substantial diffrence in quality with there DVD counterparts sell more on the format.

But as of yet no title has sold 50% or over. Until disc prices come down to the level of there DVD counterparts will we know for sure if Blu-ray can sell well on all titles rather than just the easily associated ones.

Also a lot of content can't make the jump to HD especially TV. A lot of ppl rave about black and white films in HD but in truth unless you have a 100 inch projector, there's realy not much diffrence.

With all that said i still do think Blu-ray will take hold but i doubt DVD will just die out as well.
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Well,

Imalso buy Blu-ray's a lot, but the DVD format will stay for a long time, as not everybody has the money to change the format.

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If the industry wants to force Blu-rays on us, I can't imagine they're going to try to tempt us with a recent Eddie Murphy release.

There are any number of movies on DVD which are unlikely ever to go Blu-ray. Who is ever going to need a high-definition edition of Boris Karloff's Mr. Wong movies, for instance? Or the East Side Kids movies? These are enjoyable junk, but an upgrade is extremely unlikely. What about all those flicks Warner is now offering on burned DVDs by mail order only? I'm thrilled to have Ursula Andress's She and Audrey Hepburn's Green Mansions and Ron Ely's Doc Savage available, but if these aren't worth putting on store shelves, why would they be worth putting on Blu-ray?
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If the industry wants to force Blu-rays on us, I can't imagine they're going to try to tempt us with a recent Eddie Murphy release.

There are any number of movies on DVD which are unlikely ever to go Blu-ray. Who is ever going to need a high-definition edition of Boris Karloff's Mr. Wong movies, for instance? Or the East Side Kids movies? These are enjoyable junk, but an upgrade is extremely unlikely. What about all those flicks Warner is now offering on burned DVDs by mail order only? I'm thrilled to have Ursula Andress's She and Audrey Hepburn's Green Mansions and Ron Ely's Doc Savage available, but if these aren't worth putting on store shelves, why would they be worth putting on Blu-ray?

I agree why would a studio invest money "upgrading" a movie thet are not going to profit from. I had seen that they released the spoof movie Dance Flick only on blu-ray first. like this movie is going to tempt anyone into buying a bluray player. Again maybe the studios will release all the older movies just say they are bluray quality and call it a day. after all there are countless "special editon" dvd's that are not really that special!
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If the industry wants to force Blu-rays on us, I can't imagine they're going to try to tempt us with a recent Eddie Murphy release.

There are any number of movies on DVD which are unlikely ever to go Blu-ray. Who is ever going to need a high-definition edition of Boris Karloff's Mr. Wong movies, for instance? Or the East Side Kids movies? These are enjoyable junk, but an upgrade is extremely unlikely. What about all those flicks Warner is now offering on burned DVDs by mail order only? I'm thrilled to have Ursula Andress's She and Audrey Hepburn's Green Mansions and Ron Ely's Doc Savage available, but if these aren't worth putting on store shelves, why would they be worth putting on Blu-ray?

That's not the point, very likely BD players will have the capability to play DVDs for a long time. That is different from not making new movies available on DVD, but on BD only. Not that we know that is happening already, and indeed the Eddie Murphy example probably would not merit the expense of a BD to begin with.
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I don't think it's on the way out yet.

The average consumer sees the change from DVD to Blu-ray as being quite a bit less than the change from VHS to DVD. I can't see the various companies stopping production of DVDs as it would cut out a large percentage of buyers who don't want to go Blu yet.
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I have to agree. No commercial company can afford to lock out the DVD owners. A film release on Blu only would not necessarily force me to buy a Blu ray player. Only if there is a nice release with a Blu ray player as a bonus! 
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If the industry wants to force Blu-rays on us, I can't imagine they're going to try to tempt us with a recent Eddie Murphy release.

There are any number of movies on DVD which are unlikely ever to go Blu-ray. Who is ever going to need a high-definition edition of Boris Karloff's Mr. Wong movies, for instance? Or the East Side Kids movies? These are enjoyable junk, but an upgrade is extremely unlikely. What about all those flicks Warner is now offering on burned DVDs by mail order only? I'm thrilled to have Ursula Andress's She and Audrey Hepburn's Green Mansions and Ron Ely's Doc Savage available, but if these aren't worth putting on store shelves, why would they be worth putting on Blu-ray?


Or anything from Charlie Chaplins early years. Most black and white movies you don't get much of diffrence unless you have projector to blow them up on a 100 inch screen.

I think the more delivery systems are available for movies and TV the better. It gives consumers more choice and more streams revenue to account for any drop in one single system. Otherwise we face the same scenario every 10 years ago where sales in one format start to dip with nothing to make up for it.

Downloads, Blu-ray, DVD all good for movie fans,
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My doubts were not about old movies being brought out in BD, but about new movies (not) being brought out in DVD.
But most people here seem to have no worries for the short and medium term. Good to know.
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In at least two different sites, some techie experts have been opining that Blu-Ray itself was dying technology -- because of the influx of thing like Video on Demand and the like.  I don't think that the distributors are going to stop releasing things in DVD format anytime soon -- not until HD TVs are the rule rather than the exception, anyway.  Don't forget that Beta software was around a long time after it was replaced by VHS for all intents and purposes.  And look how long VHS software was being sold when DVDs had become popular.

I'm more concerned about the death of the whole disc-based program material than I am in losing DVDs.  At least for the short and medium term as you describe it, Hans.
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I wonder what would happen if they did it to HUGE movies...i assume people would be furious about it.
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I wonder what would happen if they did it to HUGE movies...i assume people would be furious about it.


I think more people would turn to illegal sources (downloads, bootlegs) instead of buying blu-rays. You can often watch this attitude in movie forums when publishers release an extended version on blu-ray, but only the cinematic version on DVD. 
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What I hate is the trend of releasing a bare bones DVD and then have all the extras being exclusive on the Blu-Ray.

Warner Bros./New Line seems to be doing this quite a bit lately.

Observe and Report
17 Again
Terminator: Salvation

I was looking forward to getting TS on DVD, but WB is basically releasing a bare bones DVD and the Blu-Ray is getting extras as well as a Directors Cut. So I probably won't be buying TS on DVD anytime soon.

At least other studios are still releasing feature ladden DVDs of new release. I'm glad that Paramount is still releasing 2-disc editions of new releases such as Transformers 2 and Star Trek(2009).
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As to studio bypassing regular DVD format for a genuinely popular new release, just doing Blu-ray, I could see this happening some years down the line, when a majority of viewing households has Blu-ray playing capability. Not soon, and it just might never happen. Even then, there will be a period when there are maybe a dozen devices in the house which will play regular DVDs as opposed to one or two which will play Blu-ray. This will prolong the popularity of the regular DVD for any release.
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