I  am trying to get my head around how best to submit a contribution,, it's a boxset of a TV Series with 21 Disc's, it comes as a slip case with 3 keep cases inside ( each keep case contains 1 or 2 seasons), none of the keep cases have any UPC (just the slip case), each keep case contains between 7 and 9 discs.

My feeling at moment is to submit 3 child profiles with a Disc ID of the first disc in the set?

Thoughts?...

I agree with my hairy friend...profile per disc, not per case.

+1 with ATF.

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I beg to differ in this case. The rules say that "Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired, but this is not required." For me this implies that season-level profiles take precedence over disc-level profiles.

Personally I agree, they should be broken down to season level (Id's by the first disc of that season if it's not one season per disc)... but disenters will point out that the rules also say "...where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied" (my emphasis) not "shall be applied" so that too is optional.
FWIW I belive it should be worded "should be applied where possible" but, at the moment, it isnt'

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Now I do hope that at some point we'll have more profile identifiers than the two we have now, so all of this becomes mute... 

I can only echo this sentiment as at present it's "first one wins" as either side can legitimately No vote against any change.

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disenters will point out that the rules also say "...where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied" (my emphasis) not "shall be applied" so that too is optional.

Sure, that's in the rules as well. However I believe in this case this is irrelevant, because this rule is about the relationship between the slip case (parent profile) and whatever comes underneath (child profiles) - it defines what should go into the parent (slip case) profile.

That's not the issue here - this rule doesn't specify WHAT should be profiled as child profile. Surely, no one is questioning that the slip case should be profiled, as it's the only item with a UPC, nor what should go into its profile.

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Quoting Voltaire53:

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disenters will point out that the rules also say "...where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied" (my emphasis) not "shall be applied" so that too is optional.

Sure, that's in the rules as well. However I believe in this case this is irrelevant, because this rule is about the relationship between the slip case (parent profile) and whatever comes underneath (child profiles) - it defines what should go into the parent (slip case) profile.
That's not the issue here - this rule doesn't specify WHAT should be profiled as child profile. Surely, no one is questioning that the slip case should be profiled, as it's the only item with a UPC, nor what should go into its profile.

Sorry, I should have quoted the full Rule:

"In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile."

So this actually DOES state what should be profiled as a child profile - each series.

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So this actually DOES state what should be profiled as a child profile - each series.

Couldn't agree more! However, due to unfortunate wording, we're once again stuck with the dreaded "first one in wins" principle... I really hope this gets addressed soon.

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So this actually DOES state what should be profiled as a child profile - each series.

Couldn't agree more! However, due to unfortunate wording, we're once again stuck with the dreaded "first one in wins" principle... I really hope this gets addressed soon.

Actually "first one in wins" isn't used here.  Before we allowed TV seasons to be profiled by disc level.  We did allow complete series to be profiled using box set rules.  Example "Buffy Chosen Collection" which was profiled using the first disc ID of each season.  When the disc level profiles for seasons were allowed any complete series that were profiled using the box set rules were wiped out with the disc ID information of the retail seasons.  Contributors cited first release wins not first profiled.

This whole issue kinda p'd me off since we had a number of our so called we only follow the rules contributors contributing disc IDs of season sets before Ken made his ruling on allowing seasons to be profiled by disc level.  Okay ... I guess I'll get off my soap box now...