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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 114 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not-so-theoretical situation:
A multi-disc set is released. Later a problem is found with one of the discs in the set. The manufacturer sends replacement discs to those who write them, and also reissues the set with the corrected disc (with the same barcode).
I have the problem disc as well as the replacement. Should I enter the disc IDs of both? I had in mind naming them like this:
Disc 1
Disc 2 (original)
Disc 2 (replacement)
Disc 3
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Fine for your local, but I wouldn't submit it to the online. Just my opinion, though. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
Fine for your local, but I wouldn't submit it to the online. Just my opinion, though. Agreed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Joe: Fortunately this doesn't happen all that often. You obviously understand the importance of capturing both sets of data. While your answer seems valid, it would require a program change on Ken's partm, one I am not sure would be easy or worth implementatiopn because we ALREADY accept multiple Disc IDs per title, since we are well aware that depending on the title multiple Disc IDs are a distinct reality. The best answer that I know of is something that i have mentioned several times before, I try to to remember to do this but I fear I forget all too often.  I try to remember to include the Disc ID that I am submitting in my notes, so that should you submit another one over it, everyone can see in my notes that two Disc IDs have now been captured. It is less important which one shows up in the Online, as long as we know which ones have been captured by the system. to this end I would say that it would be a good idea to show all the possible DiscIDs the system has captured for a given title...regardless of the reason for the multiple DiscIDs. SKip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Contribution Rules: Quote:
If your Disc ID differs from the Disc ID in the main database, you may change it and re-contribute it if you are doing a wider contribution, but don't make a specific contribution for this reason. All Disc IDs will be stored in the main database for a future development of DVD Profiler. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: June 11, 2007 |  Posts: 68 |
| | Posted: | | | | But the "Before you contribute" section states: Quote:
Studios occasionally re-release titles with the same UPC, but with changed content – for example Cover Images, Case Type and Overview. All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc; do not contribute any information that is specific to a re-release. You can of course keep this re-release information in your local database profile, but do not contribute it to the main database.
It doesn't specifically mention Disc IDs here, but " All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc" leads me to think that replacement discs, and later editions of the title with the corrected discs, are not supposed to be submitted to the database. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes you can contribute disc IDs. Ken has stated that the database will keep tack of all disc IDs with the associated UPC. He has also stated that contributing an additional Disc ID will not effect users local database.
It is not uncommon for a single release (UPC) to have more than one disc ID for the same disc, even on release day. In the example you gave for disc 2 all you should have to do is update the disc ID in the Disc Info for disc 2. But you would not create an additional field in the Disc Info section for the corrected disc. And as far as the naming of the fields in Disc Info for disc IDs it should adhere to the standards Main Feature or Bonus Materials. Just read the section on Disc IDs in the DVD Specification of the contribution rules.
If this disc ID is being associated with a Box Set profile that is a different story, then you would not update the box set profile information with the new disc ID. If this is a disc for a box set profile you can contribute that disc to the database so other users can manually add it to box set profile. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting trondmm: Quote:
It doesn't specifically mention Disc IDs here, but "All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc" leads me to think that replacement discs, and later editions of the title with the corrected discs, are not supposed to be submitted to the database. The replaced IDs are removed from the database. They are retained but only the last approved is downloaded when someone gets the profile after the ID is approved. (That's where Skip's suggestion to indicate the old and new ID in the notes is useful.) However if anyone inserts a disc with either the old or new ID it is recognized by the system. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Woola: Quote:
The best answer that I know of is something that i have mentioned several times before, I try to to remember to do this but I fear I forget all too often. I try to remember to include the Disc ID that I am submitting in my notes, so that should you submit another one over it, everyone can see in my notes that two Disc IDs have now been captured. I try to do this also, but yes it's easy to forget. It would be nicer if the program displayed all disc IDs and not just the latest submission. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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