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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 670 |
| | Posted: | | | | last night, I contributed a new profile - new as in "not in the database yet". As I have done countless times before, I wrote this in the contribution notes: Quote:
All info from the cover and disc itself - where applicable, verified by DVD Shrink and/or Nero InfoTool. Release date from laserdisken.dk. This has never been a problem in the past, and they have usually been approved with no problems. But not this time - this one got declined: Quote:
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were non-specific. Please specify the exact source for your changes. (e.g. "Credits from film end credit list", "Previous version UPC#1111111111") I don't get it - how much more specific can it be? Do they really expect me to pin out where each single bit of information came from (which I do when updating existing profiles)? | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Rander:
I would advise the more specific and detailed youir notes the better. Remember you are NOT asimply Contributing, you are Communicating not only with the screeners but your fellow users. Your notes are the bibliographical record for any given title, the notes as you listed simply do not communicate. Not being able to see exactly which title you are referring to, Ok not in database, says little, was it a pre-release a FULL Profile, in which case you definitely did not communicate well. Where did casty and crew come from and so forth.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Skip
Rander already indicated where the info came from:-
"All info from the cover and disc itself."
Aside from that IMHO any contribution that states "New because not in the DB yet" or wording to that effect should be automatically declined even if it is a new DVD.
Since I was the person who suggested detailed notes for even new contributions and Ken implemented it I am surprised at the number of profiles that are still getting through with no indication of where the data has come from.
It's as bad as "I'm making these changes because I say they are there" brigade, If the details of where the DATA is coming from there can be no argument as to whether the source is correct or not,
If it's Crew or Cast:- anybody else can put the DVD into their drive/player and verify it.
Cover Scans or DATA taken from the cover can be verified against the said scan in the online.
You can't argued that black is white if the prove is available for all to see. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 670 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hmmm... I re-contributed, adding only "Cast and crew form movie credits." to the notes, and it was approved in five minutes... Sometimes it doesn't take much...  | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think some of the screeners look for that bit of wording. Not sure why, but it always seems to work. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rander: Quote:
Hmmm... I re-contributed, adding only "Cast and crew form movie credits." to the notes, and it was approved in five minutes... Sometimes it doesn't take much... That's what I wanted to propose you. Hope you've taken cast and crew really from the credits.  The screeners are watching very much of changings of cats and crew. (Also in new submitted profiles) There are two ways to get cast and crew not to be declined: - Take it from the credits! - Copy it from an existing profile of the same movie. Then you have to note from which profile you've taken it. The easier but not the best way for adding cast and crew. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rander: Quote:
..., adding only "Cast and crew form movie credits." ... I think you added "from movie credits", not "form movie credits" | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 670 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Right, I think you may have confused the issue by mixing the disc and the cover up as sources for your info. When you contribute crew in particular, if they're not in the credits they're not supposed to go in the profile, even if they are listed on the cover. So for cast and crew credits it's always safer to say where you got them in order to avoid this question. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | This might be over the top, but here's a recent example of my notes on initial contribution for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Steelbook) UPC: 7332431032873 ______________________________________________________________ Cast and Crew visually verified from Film's credits. Running time verified as 2:23:49. Studios verified from Film's credits. MC verified from Cover. Audio verified using Power DVD9. Region and layers verified using Power DVD9. Common names by CLT; Walker Howard 24/50 Howard Walker 8/53 Charles Adler 84/180 Charlie Adler 83/234 Tom Muldoon 14/90 Thomas A. Muldoon 9/129 PK Hooker 0/0 P. K. Hooker 5/58 John Fasal 10/53 John P. Fasal 19/58 Art Crew credited on screen as; Nigel Phelps: Production Designer Deborah L. Scott: Costume Designer Scott Farrar: Visual Effects Supervisor Jon Billington: Supervising Art Director Julian Ashby: Art Director Sean Haworth: Art Director Naaman Marshall: Art Director Ben Procter: Art Director John Frazier: Special Effects Supervisor Lisa Nora Lovaas: Costume Supervisor Edouard F. Henriques III: Department Head Makeup Artist Robin Beauchesne: Key Makeup Artist Matthew Butler: Visual Effects Supervisor Nathan McGuinness: Visual Effects Supervisor ________________________________________________________ Never yet had an initial contribution declined...  Edit: I usually add "All other info from DVD and Cover according to current rules" at the end, but evidently I forgot it on this contribution...  | | | Berak
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| Registered: June 11, 2007 | | Posts: 68 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rander: Quote:
Hmmm... I re-contributed, adding only "Cast and crew form movie credits." to the notes, and it was approved in five minutes... Sometimes it doesn't take much... If the initial contribution contained cast and crew info, I think this was what the screeners wanted source info for. If I write that I've included info taken from "the disc itself", I always only mean info that can be checked quickly, like features, audio and subtitle tracks, region code, etc. Entering cast from the movie credits is a big job, and entering the crew is even bigger, and if I use the movie credits as the source, I'll always specify this. However, most of the time, I'll just add the US edition of the movie to my collection and copy the cast and crew to the profile I'm submitting. Then I'll verify it against my version, just to be sure it's correct. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lesson learned here: We should show that we took cast/crew credits from the film credits not just from the "disc" which could be interpreted as coming from the cover. Those few words "from the film/movie credits" don't take long to type but seem to go a long way toward getting a contribution approved. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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