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Spacing in titles
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Today I've stumbled upon several occasions where users are copying spacing as seen on the cover. I'm personally not too thrilled about that. Some examples:



This UK profile currently has the title listed as "RoyOrbison : Black&WhiteNight"... The cover obviously uses different colors to separate the words, something we can't do. So I think it should be "Roy Orbison: Black & White Night". Another one:



This Belgian profile currently has the title listed as "Marie&Bruce", while I think it should be "Marie & Bruce"... Again, the cover users color, and I'd rather not do a half-hearted attempt at replicating this in DVD Profiler.

I'm wondering how the community feels about this?
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I am always entering them with spaces, I ignore such things and tell myself it an artsy decision of the graphics guy.
RoyOrbison is not written without a space, it is clearly Roy Orbison and will also be that way in the title on screen and in the credits.

just my 2 cents

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When entering a title from the cover into the database, I always ask myself: how would the film makers resp. cover designers write the title in normal text, when there are no fancy fonts, colouring, logos, different font sizes etc. available? Therefore I'd use normal spacing.
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I completely agree with you guys. 
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I am always entering them with spaces, I ignore such things and tell myself it an artsy decision of the graphics guy.
RoyOrbison is not written without a space, it is clearly Roy Orbison and will also be that way in the title on screen and in the credits.

just my 2 cents

cheers
Donnie


Agree absolutely. This is just artwork and not title.
... How is it written in credits or credit block on back?
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When entering a title from the cover into the database, I always ask myself: how would the film makers resp. cover designers write the title in normal text, when there are no fancy fonts, colouring, logos, different font sizes etc. available? Therefore I'd use normal spacing.

I agree. Anyone who wants to see the actual typography, can look at the cover scan. It's impossible to copy all the artwork into a text title anyway, and that would screw up searching, ordering etc.
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How is it written in credits or credit block on back?

In both examples, "normal" spacing is used there.
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did you need a poll for this??  My Region 1 edition of Roy Orbison: Black & White Night ( both HD dvd and STD version has never had a problem with spacing in the title.
( only the lowercase lettering of k.d. lang        )

Just submit it and I'm Sure you'll either get all positive votes,, or no votes at all and it will still get accepted ....
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... How is it written in credits or credit block on back?


That's what I would do. How is it written in the credit block and how does the film distributor and producer spell it on their websites or on the website of the film.

One example I can think of that uses no spaces at all is the Spanish film Azuloscurocasinegro (2006).

How are those titles spelled in the film credits on DVD? You could consider to use the Original Title field for the title with spacing if it is spelled with spaces in the Opening Title.
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Treat it like capitalization: assume it's stanrd unless there'e strong reason to think otherwise.
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... How is it written in credits or credit block on back?


That's what I would do. How is it written in the credit block and how does the film distributor and producer spell it on their websites or on the website of the film.

One example I can think of that uses no spaces at all is the Spanish film Azuloscurocasinegro (2006).

How are those titles spelled in the film credits on DVD? You could consider to use the Original Title field for the title with spacing if it is spelled with spaces in the Opening Title.


Have to agree with that - I'd look at the spelling in the credit block and the film credits in cases like these, where color is used to typographically separate the words in the title.

(As for another example of a movie with a long title with no space, Symbiopsychotaxiplasm)
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I haven't weighed in here for several reasons, but using the original title for this sort of oddball seems the correct solution to me.

Now onto at least one the titles that tim showed. The Roy Orbison title, I see spaces there...why. Has anyone noticed the change in colors where the spaces would be, for example Roy is in white Orbison in silver, the color change is in lieu of spaces in EVERY instance.<shtugs> and we don't do colors.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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Now onto at least one the titles that tim showed. The Roy Orbison title, I see spaces there...why. Has anyone noticed the change in colors where the spaces would be, for example Roy is in white Orbison in silver, the color change is in lieu of spaces in EVERY instance.<shtugs> and we don't do colors.

Skip

I think that most of us here agree with you that the color change signals a 'space'.

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For me, there is no doubt that the correct title is using spaces, and that's how I would have it in my local database. But there is also no doubt that our inept rules (that impose "T4xi"...) ask us to reproduce the title on the cover, where there is no space (rules do not mention any exception about color changes).

So if I had to contribute or vote, I would do it, stupidly, per the rules, as a proposed change allowing using common sense in odd cases was refused by a majority of users.
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