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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Good day, Sirs, the topic Title: Colon or Hyphen, Orginal Title: Snatch or Snatch. got locked. No idea why. Kinoniki: I think that we don't need another thread that was just discussed for 13-pages...Where had the Original Title been discussed before? RAPMAN: Yes, I think so.TheMadMartian: Like it or not, based on the rules, 'Snatch.' is correct.dee1959jay: Agreed.This was also my opinion. Invelos however can't decide, one thing, then another: It can't be that difficult to determine a simple Original Title. So, Snatch. or Snatch? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: So, Snatch. or Snatch? There's definitively no question mark in the title. Seriously, why is this title so important to you? Format it the way you want, lock it locally and then give it a rest. Don't start the umptieth poll about this. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Quoting bbbbb:
Quote: So, Snatch. or Snatch?
There's definitively no question mark in the title.
Seriously, why is this title so important to you? Format it the way you want, lock it locally and then give it a rest. Don't start the umptieth poll about this. You get a greenie from me on this response. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Invelos declind the change, for whatever reason. Technically, "Snatch." is correct for the Original Title. Personally, I would not use it locally, but that is my personal preference.
Since it was declined, I would just move on. Put it in your local database and accept the fact that the main database will not be 100% accurate for this title.
It really isn't a big deal. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | You submitted the data from one region to another. Ken said he would let the people who owned that regions title decide whether or not they wanted those kinds of changes. In this case, a third of them did not. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 762 |
| Posted: | | | | I do find it inconsistent that it was accepted for the R2 profile but is declined here. If it is correct and follows the rules it should be accepted. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: You submitted the data from one region to another. Ken said he would let the people who owned that regions title decide whether or not they wanted those kinds of changes. In this case, a third of them did not. What does this exactly mean? If I live in Finland I'm not titled to contribute to R1 profiles, even if I own them? That's insane. Does Ken verify every conributors CoO? |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 762 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: You submitted the data from one region to another. Ken said he would let the people who owned that regions title decide whether or not they wanted those kinds of changes. In this case, a third of them did not.
What does this exactly mean? If I live in Finland I'm not titled to contribute to R1 profiles, even if I own them? That's insane. Does Ken verify every conributors CoO? No, it's about people who have the R2 DVD but change the R1 DVD which they don't own or opposite. |
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Registered: September 29, 2008 | Posts: 384 |
| Posted: | | | | Funny because the other R1 locality version of the film did get accepted (the one I own )...I'm in agreement with TheDarkKnight. If it follows the rules (which in this case it does) it should be accepted. I would resubmit it personally with the following in your notes: Rule: " Original TitleThe Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. Use the title from the film's credits. In cases where the title is the original title, leave the Original Title field blank." Screen shot of title in movie on 5th post down: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=421755 Since the title is different, and the rules state nothing about ignoring punctuation, as much as I am in agreement with many of the No voters, your contribution is correct and per the rules. Or you can give up if you want and just leave it as it is...but if not all the versions are changed we have 2 different titles in terms of CLT rather than just one, which we all know can throw off results. So personally I'd try resubmitting. | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire | | | Last edited: by Vittra |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote: No, it's about people who have the R2 DVD but change the R1 DVD which they don't own or opposite. But how do you know if the contributor has a R1 or R2 version if he's collection is hidden? Even when it's not hidden it takes 2 seconds to add it to your collection if one so wishes. I know that's stupid and I would never do that, but how does screeners know who has which DVD? |
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Registered: September 29, 2008 | Posts: 384 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheDarkKnight:
Quote: No, it's about people who have the R2 DVD but change the R1 DVD which they don't own or opposite.
But how do you know if the contributor has a R1 or R2 version if he's collection is hidden?
Even when it's not hidden it takes 2 seconds to add it to your collection if one so wishes. I know that's stupid and I would never do that, but how does screeners know who has which DVD? At least for my particular DVD, bbbbb specifically stated it was from the R2 DVD and said as such as a warning. Just to clarify, I have no problem with this, so long as it's a correct contribution. Which in this case it is. I initially voted No because I felt exactly as the other No voters did on that other title. After RAPMAN put a screen shot up of the credits, I went and put my copy on to be sure. Sure enough, the "." is present so his contribution is correct. | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Vittra: Quote:
At least for my particular DVD, bbbbb specifically stated it was from the R2 DVD and said as such as a warning. Just to clarify, I have no problem with this, so long as it's a correct contribution. Which in this case it is. OK, now it makes more sense. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: You submitted the data from one region to another. Ken said he would let the people who owned that regions title decide whether or not they wanted those kinds of changes. In this case, a third of them did not.
What does this exactly mean? If I live in Finland I'm not titled to contribute to R1 profiles, even if I own them? That's insane. Does Ken verify every conributors CoO? In his notes, he says, "Caution: the title addition was verified with the release for a RC2 locality." That means he does not own the R1 release. I don't know that it was the reason for the decline, just a possibility. Edit: I see Vittra beat me to it. Thanks mate. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Quote: So, Snatch. or Snatch? Seriously, why is this title so important to you? It would have been my thousandth contribution. Quote: Don't start the umptieth poll about this. It's the 1st discussion about the Original Title of Snatch., and I did not make this post a poll. You could say part 2 of the 1st discussion, though, for the topic Title: Colon or Hyphen, Orginal Title: Snatch or Snatch. got locked for no reason. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: You submitted the data from one region to another. Ken said he would let the people who owned that regions title decide whether or not they wanted those kinds of changes. In this case, a third of them did not. So minority groups make the decisions? And above all things against the Rules? That cannot be right. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Invelos declind the change, for whatever reason. Technically, "Snatch." is correct for the Original Title. Personally, I would not use it locally, but that is my personal preference.
Since it was declined, I would just move on. Put it in your local database and accept the fact that the main database will not be 100% accurate for this title.
It really isn't a big deal. The big deal is not this specific contribution. The big deal is whether we want to stick to or to betray our principles. You say, the correct Original Title according to the Rules should be kept local. Instead the personal preferences of a few users should shape the online database. In my opinion it should be quite the reverse. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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