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Doctor Who - Deliver from chaos?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantccweems
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The Doctor Who episodes have been released in many formats by various companies who have titled them by all sorts of methods.  What I would like to do is propose a consistent title and sort format so that those with Doctor Who collections can have a reasonable chance of finding the desired disc and furthermore to have them be sorted in chronological order based on the UK airings.  This is not a task for the fainthearted and I volunteer with some reluctance.  I have not purchased the series 2 episodes but expect that I have one of the largest collections.  While I expect that there are not many Doctor Who fans out there I do expect that those that have a few episodes would like DVD Profiler's help in presenting them appropriately.  I was going to do this for my own benefit and then realized that the online profiles could benefit also.  My participation is only with respect to the Title and Sort Title fields.  Should there be a need to have a title which differs from the released format (to correct a distributor's error) it will be noted in the "Note" field.  I have no interest in altering any of the other fields and appreciate the hard work done by others to make them accurate and complete. 

At this moment I have just started looking at the issue.  Upon given the ok to procede I'll forward the formats and the reasoning behind them.
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I may be misunderstanding you....but you can't change the Title field without it matching the box.
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The Doctor Who episodes have been released in many formats by various companies who have titled them by all sorts of methods.  What I would like to do is propose a consistent title and sort format so that those with Doctor Who collections can have a reasonable chance of finding the desired disc and furthermore to have them be sorted in chronological order based on the UK airings.  This is not a task for the fainthearted and I volunteer with some reluctance.  I have not purchased the series 2 episodes but expect that I have one of the largest collections.  While I expect that there are not many Doctor Who fans out there I do expect that those that have a few episodes would like DVD Profiler's help in presenting them appropriately.  I was going to do this for my own benefit and then realized that the online profiles could benefit also.  My participation is only with respect to the Title and Sort Title fields.  Should there be a need to have a title which differs from the released format (to correct a distributor's error) it will be noted in the "Note" field.  I have no interest in altering any of the other fields and appreciate the hard work done by others to make them accurate and complete. 

At this moment I have just started looking at the issue.  Upon given the ok to procede I'll forward the formats and the reasoning behind them.



Personally I use Here for a complete list to the Classic Doctor Who Episodes.

I have used the episode list to create personal sort listings so that all my Doctor Who DVD's run in correct viewing order:- starting with "An Unearthly Child" sorted as "Dr.Who 00001"; "The Daleks" as Dr.Who 00002 etc. All through the classic series right up to David Tennants currently available stories, thus any stories that become available at a later date (due to current restoration techniques) the (as when available) will slot straight into the correct place.

Steve
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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I may be misunderstanding you....but you can't change the Title field without it matching the box.


My thinking exactly. You can not "make" the titles match if they don't. You have to use what's on the cover. All you can do is use the "Sort Title" field to get them in any order you like.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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The Doctor Who episodes have been released in many formats by various companies who have titled them by all sorts of methods.  What I would like to do is propose a consistent title and sort format so that those with Doctor Who collections can have a reasonable chance of finding the desired disc and furthermore to have them be sorted in chronological order based on the UK airings.  This is not a task for the fainthearted and I volunteer with some reluctance.  I have not purchased the series 2 episodes but expect that I have one of the largest collections.  While I expect that there are not many Doctor Who fans out there I do expect that those that have a few episodes would like DVD Profiler's help in presenting them appropriately.  I was going to do this for my own benefit and then realized that the online profiles could benefit also.  My participation is only with respect to the Title and Sort Title fields.  Should there be a need to have a title which differs from the released format (to correct a distributor's error) it will be noted in the "Note" field.  I have no interest in altering any of the other fields and appreciate the hard work done by others to make them accurate and complete. 

At this moment I have just started looking at the issue.  Upon given the ok to procede I'll forward the formats and the reasoning behind them.

All you have to do is follow the Rules, which you do not seem to wish to do. Your version of order may introduce Chaos for others, so create Order for yourself and leave the Online to the rules.

The OK is not given, by this user, for YOU to decide how things will be done.

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Not to mention that once the profile has been created in the on-line database, you cannot change the sort title in the online database (you can change it locally).  It is ignored for all subsequent contributions.
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Not to mention that once the profile has been created in the on-line database, you cannot change the sort title in the online database (you can change it locally).  It is ignored for all subsequent contributions.

As it should be.

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The Doctor Who episodes have been released in many formats by various companies who have titled them by all sorts of methods.  What I would like to do is propose a consistent title and sort format so that those with Doctor Who collections can have a reasonable chance of finding the desired disc and furthermore to have them be sorted in chronological order based on the UK airings.  This is not a task for the fainthearted and I volunteer with some reluctance.  I have not purchased the series 2 episodes but expect that I have one of the largest collections.  While I expect that there are not many Doctor Who fans out there I do expect that those that have a few episodes would like DVD Profiler's help in presenting them appropriately.  I was going to do this for my own benefit and then realized that the online profiles could benefit also.  My participation is only with respect to the Title and Sort Title fields.  Should there be a need to have a title which differs from the released format (to correct a distributor's error) it will be noted in the "Note" field.  I have no interest in altering any of the other fields and appreciate the hard work done by others to make them accurate and complete. 

At this moment I have just started looking at the issue.  Upon given the ok to procede I'll forward the formats and the reasoning behind them.

All you have to do is follow the Rules, which you do not seem to wish to do.


How did you come to this conclusion after just one post?

Generally people who don't wish to follow the rules don't ask for permission first.

ccweems, as others had stated, as I understand what you are asking, this would go against the rules and would have to be local change only.
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The Doctor Who episodes ...What I would like to do is propose a consistent title and sort format so that those with Doctor Who collections can have a reasonable chance of finding the desired disc and furthermore to have them be sorted in chronological order based on the UK airings.


Title must be taken from the cover as per the Rules. I already have all mine (every released Doctor Who title in the UK... and a couple more as it happens ) sorted into chronological order using the Sort Title field already. Didn't actually use the same source as snarbo but there are a few out there and I created a spreadsheet of at least the Classic Who serials ages ago (title, which Doc, number of episodes, number surviving, transmission order, dates of transmission etc). If you like I can send it to you

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While I expect that there are not many Doctor Who fans out there I do expect that those that have a few episodes would like DVD Profiler's help in presenting them appropriately....My participation is only with respect to the Title and Sort Title fields.  Should there be a need to have a title which differs from the released format (to correct a distributor's error) it will be noted in the "Note" field.


As mentioned; Title field is fixed to what is on the cover as per the Rules - changing from that will get an automatic No vote, Sort Title and Notes are local only so each person can set it up the way they want (alphabetical, chronological, whatever) and don't get contributed so you can set them to whatever you want locally but nobody else will be able to see any chages you make even if you contribute.

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Didn't actually use the same source as snarbo but there are a few out there and I created a spreadsheet of at least the Classic Who serials ages ago (title, which Doc, number of episodes, number surviving, transmission order, dates of transmission etc).


Like wise using the website I mentioned, only using the same site I included Eccleston, Tennant and I'm ready for Smith's (jury out at the moment on Smith until have seen what he's like), although I kept the sheet to Doctor/Story with colour coding for Not Released, Released and Pending Release.

Waiting for the Up coming releases at the moment, Kameleon, Peladon, Myths and Legends as well as the Specials set.

Steve
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Personally I use Here for a complete list to the Classic Doctor Who Episodes.

I have used the episode list to create personal sort listings so that all my Doctor Who DVD's run in correct viewing order:- starting with "An Unearthly Child" sorted as "Dr.Who 00001"; "The Daleks" as Dr.Who 00002 etc. All through the classic series right up to David Tennants currently available stories, thus any stories that become available at a later date (due to current restoration techniques) the (as when available) will slot straight into the correct place.

Steve


Could you do me a favour and post that list of yours? Since I am starting to collect classical Whos I ran into the same problem...
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I put my Doctor Who releases in order by putting a code after the 'Doctor Who' in the Sort Title box.
(The list here is pretty damn accurate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials)
This code indicates which Doctor and which story number it is for that Doctor.
This quite successfully puts them in the correct order for me...

Such as ...

for Doctor Who: The Masque of Mandragora
Doctor Who 04x12: The Masque of Mandragora

for Doctor Who: Time and the Rani
Doctor Who 07x01: Time and the Rani

etc...
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(The list here is pretty damn accurate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials)


Thanks
Karsten
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