In a pending contribution I have an entry for actress Kate Bowes Renna, and I've parsed that as K/B/R. One of the voters disagrees, saying that "Bowes Renna" is her "surname". What to do - what is "correct" for our purposes?

Some links on Kate Bowes Renna:

- IMDb

- BFI.org.uk

- Bloomfields Management

- www.najbergmilne.com/kate-bowes-renna.php

I haven't find anything conclusive either way. So how do we parse this?

Agree with Pete.

Yeah, not perfect but it's the best we can manage unless the complainer comes up with some actual evidence.

I agree with the others; until documentation proves otherwise, the parsing should be Kate//Bowers//Renna.

I can remember the thread where it was explained, that in the USA it's common that women if they get married often get their "unmarriaged" last name as middle name.

Not understandable for a German, but if it's like that, then it's like that. 

But if it's correct what surfeur51 wrote and she is from UK and in UK this is not common, I would say it would be correct to take the both last names in the last name field. We should take the habbits of the birth country of an actor, so Bowes Renna as surname.

Indicator that both are last names, is the sorting on the site from the BFI.org.uk-link T!M gave.

So far i see a bunch of assumptions and there is only ONE source which indicates a possible answer, I am not convinced that the ORIGINAL data was based on anything other than an assumption. Assumptions don't cut it, I would like tyo see at least one more source, beyond an inconclusive phone book entry, which defines Bowes renna, an interview...something. I don't buy the cultural argument for a second. Documentary support.

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Her birth name is Katherine Joy Renna. He son is called Luca Bowes Renna. Whilst it's possible that she and her son share the same middle name and she added that out of some flight of fancy, I think it would require some good reason from the submitter to change things.

OTOH Alien, I know many women who do exactly that. I won't go as far as you in presuming that it is either common or not. The FACT is that married woman DO move their maiden name to the middle name position, and that is every individual's personal choice, NOT ours. Just as some women choose to keep the maiden name, usually i think for professional reasons, instead of taking their husbands name. The point being that a persons is PERSONAL and none of us can presume to KNOW, we can only take a starting position (which was decided to be 1/2/3) and if another form of parsing can determined and documented then GREAT, I am all for it.

I don't see this as a brouhaha argument over anything. I would only have one question relative to the Original data, was it documented and I gather from Tim that it was not, therefore the correct entry is 1/2/3 pending future documentation.

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