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Today's "does this new wording get a credit" question.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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"Sound Editorial" Smack in the middle of the sound section between Sound Designer and Re-recording.

I'm leaning towards no as they could be sound effects editors or foley editors, but there are no other sound credits to be seen...
2 of the 4 names I have for multiple other sound credits.
Existing profile has none of them, but is a super-rare and niche title (Soroity House Massacre).
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I'd definitely include them, yes.
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I'd definitely include them, yes.


As what?

I think just "Sound" or "Supervising Sound Editor" could match.


It's not listed in the credit chart, so I would leave them out.
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I'd definitely include them, yes.


I definitely wouldn't!

They don't fit the current crew list.

Personally, I wouldn't list them at all...but, if you really want them then use the Other function so they don't get contributed.

I agree with you, that these could be anything!
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I'd definitely include them, yes.

As what?

You don't see the word "sound editor" in "sound editorial"? That's what it is. Similarly, I've always included "sound editing" and "sound editing by". "Sound editorial" is the exact same thing.

It continues to baffle me how some users always seem to be looking for far-fetched excuses to keep valid data from the database. By that very same reasoning, one could argue that each and every time a production designer is credited as "production designed by", he cannot be entered: after all, "production designed by" is not listed in the crew chart, now is it? Yet nobody seems to have a problem with entering them - and rightly so. This is no different.
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I'd include unless there was a separate Sound Editor credit.
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"Sound Editorial" Smack in the middle of the sound section between Sound Designer and Re-recording.

I'm leaning towards no as they could be sound effects editors or foley editors, but there are no other sound credits to be seen...
2 of the 4 names I have for multiple other sound credits.
Existing profile has none of them, but is a super-rare and niche title (Soroity House Massacre).

Huh? Of course. Unless as Gard said, then i would ignore it.

But then there is the issue of Robotics Special Effects Supervisor.

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But then there is the issue of Robotics Special Effects Supervisor.

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Not quite the same.  'Production Design by' is the same as Production Designer.  'Written for the screen by' is the same as Screenwriter.  Your credit is a specialized job, not the same job worded differently.  JMHO
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I'd definitely include them, yes.

As what?

You don't see the word "sound editor" in "sound editorial"? That's what it is. Similarly, I've always included "sound editing" and "sound editing by". "Sound editorial" is the exact same thing.


I see the word, but I think the work they do is something very different.
Sound Editors are editing the sound. Editorials are people talking about this.
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Sound Editors are editing the sound. Editorials are people talking about this.

I'm sorry, but no. They're sound editors.
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Sound Editors are editing the sound. Editorials are people talking about this.

I'm sorry, but no. They're sound editors.


Sure?    Then my translation program did me wrong. 
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Sound Editors are editing the sound. Editorials are people talking about this.

I'm sorry, but no. They're sound editors.


Sure?    Then my translation program did me wrong. 


"Editorials" are articles written by editors (usually quite opinionated), normally at the beginning of a printed volume (newspaper, magazine, etc.)
Using it in such a context ("Sound Editorials") is pretty nonsensical, unless they wrote (or presented in another form) some personally opinionated piece of material to promote a perspective prior to watching a film (such as a Director's introduction, et cetera).
Either way, since (by definition of the word) an Editor delivers an Editorial, so they must also be "Sound Editors" 

But I agree [personal opinion, of course] that I would only include them if no other specific "Sound Editor" is credited.
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Thanks for the explanation. 

I still would not include them as not listed in the credit chart. (alos just my personnel opinion)
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I still would not include them as not listed in the credit chart. (alos just my personnel opinion)

Would you, by that same reasoning, also leave out "production designed by"? That's not listed in the chart either, yet it's obviously what we're after. The same applies to sound editorial <--> sound editor(s).
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In the Film Business "Editorial" is the term given to the process of editing. Most editing (Film, Sound or Both) facilities are listed under "Editorial Services" in the yellow pages out here in L.A.
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