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Registered: May 18, 2007 | Posts: 389 |
| Posted: | | | | I came across this last night:
Characters courtesy of Leisure Concepts, Inc. and Robert C. Dille
I was wondering if Robert C. Dille would get an OCB credit? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,414 |
| Posted: | | | | This sounds like a licensing arrangement rather than a character creation credit. Dille might be a creator, but he might not. I'd exclude it. | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Looks like this has to do with the TV series Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Correct?
I think I asked this same question before and I'm fairly sure I was told that OCB was correct. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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Registered: May 18, 2007 | Posts: 389 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks a lot for the link Cubby |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | I hate it having just one source, but for me it looks different. According to WikipediaQuote: Anthony Rogers was a fictional character that originated in two short stories by Philip Francis Nowlan, "Armageddon 2419 A.D." and "The Airlords of Han" published in Amazing Stories (August 1928, March 1929).
The character was renamed Buck Rogers and reinvented by John Flint Dille as a comic strip, making its first newspaper appearance January 7, 1929. If John Flint Dille is not Robert C. Dille it could be, that R. C. Dille is his son and inherited the rights of the character. So it would be like gardibolt wrote a licensing agreement and get imho not a OCB credit. Just a point to think of. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Doesn't look like an OCB credit to me.
In the crew table it defines this entry with this explanation: "credit the author of the characters here".
Since John Flint Dille is the creator of the original character, this can't be an OCB credit. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Now I'm confused.
http://www.megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?t=8524
[quote]Robert C. Dille-
From wikipedia:
Licensing rights to the Buck Rogers character was initially owned by the National Newspaper Service. The National Newspaper service became the John F. Dille Company.[citation needed]
In 1979, Leisure Concepts, Inc. (now 4Kids Ent.) as licensing agent for Robert C. Dille licensed the television series to Universal Studios which starred Gil Gerard.[citation needed]
Robert C. Dille formed The Dille Family Trust in the 1980s. Leisure Concepts no longer represents the rights to Buck Rogers.[citation needed] Lorraine Dille Williams owned TSR, Inc., publisher of the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game, prior to selling the company to Wizards of the Coast. TSR published a Buck Rogers role-playing game and related products.
The Dille Family Trust has continuously owned and enforced its trademarks and copyrights to Buck Rogers, Rocket Rangers and other marks to this day. A motion picture was licensed to Walt Disney studios in the late 1990s; those rights have since reverted to the Dille Family Trust. Flint Dille represents the Dille Family Trust interests. [/quote]
Now I'm assuming that Dille was the son John Flint Dille and had all rights to the character and Universal had to pay him for the use of said character.
Perhaps someone who knows more can answer the following. If Philip Francis Nowlan created the short stories that the character was based on why wasn't he credited? If not for this then was he for any previous Buck Rogers film/show?
Now I'm confused if this credit should be removed or not from the profile for the TV show. |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Don't know if this will confuse things more or not. But on the old 1970's toys his name appears on the packaging. It's hard to make out by the pic below, but right below "Authentic Decals" it looks like it has the following. 1978 or 1979 Then the names. Robert C. Dille Universal City Studios, Inc. These look like Copyright notices. http://www.megomuseum.com/teevee/buck34.html |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,414 |
| Posted: | | | | OK, so that other thread was wrong. Robert's just an heir. If you look at page 64 of the Starlog article on the buck-rogers.com website related to the comic strip, he's the younger of John Flint Dille's two sons. The OCB credit, if there were one, would be Nowlan and/or arguably Dick Calkins, the first artist on the comic strip, and/or maybe John Flint Dille, though he seems to be more a syndicator/publisher with tangential input into the development of the character himself. Since none of them seems to get a credit (those bastards!), there's no OCB credit. This is, as I had guessed, just a licensing credit, and we don't track those. | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." | | | Last edited: by gardibolt |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote: OK, so that other thread was wrong. Robert's just an heir. If you look at page 64 of the Starlog article on the buck-rogers.com website related to the comic strip, he's the younger of John Flint Dille's two sons. The OCB credit, if there were one, would be Nowlan and/or arguably Dick Calkins, the first artist on the comic strip, and/or maybe John Flint Dille, though he seems to be more a syndicator/publisher with tangential input into the development of the character himself. Since none of them seems to get a credit (those bastards!), there's no OCB credit. This is, as I had guessed, just a licensing credit, and we don't track those. Absolutely agree. |
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Registered: May 18, 2007 | Posts: 389 |
| Posted: | | | | Thank you all for your input. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Yup, it sure looks like those that told me it was ok to do it was wrong. Now it has to be corrected. |
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Registered: May 18, 2007 | Posts: 389 |
| Posted: | | | | No, need Cubby I'm already working on it |
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