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[Since When] Do we use Common Names with (Uncredited)?

Ehm... Since day one, obviously. To ensure proper linking, any (uncredited) entries have to be entered using the person's common name, to link together with the person's credited appearances. It would be pretty pointless to use name variant X for all credited appearances of a certain actor, and to use name variant Y for all his (uncredited) appearances. If you do that, then you're still stuck with two separate, non-linking entries for the same person, defeating the entire purpose of the system. So yes, we use "common names" for all (uncredited) entries. Whenever a common name shifts, any profiles containing (uncredited) entries for that person will need to be updated to reflect that.

You give very little detail about the suffixes issue, but generally speaking the fact that there's both a "Sr." and a "Jr." doesn't automatically mean that these suffixes are part of their common names. It all depends on what they're mostly credited as. It may very well be (I've seen that many times in these father-and-son things) that both are actually mostly credited without the suffix. As helpful as these suffixes might be to distinguish between them, if they're not included in the name variant one or both people are mostly credited with, then they can't be a part of the common name for our purposes.

Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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he changed a Joe Smith, Jr (uncredited) to simply Joe Smith

As I explained, that may very well be correct. If the man's common name is is indeed "Joe Smith", then yes, this (uncredited) entry needs to be changed. If his common name is "Joe Smith, Jr.", then it shouldn't. If you provide the exact details (I'm guessing we're not really talking about a "Joe Smith"), I'll try to sort it out for you.

Edit: please refrain from attacking me for no reason. I'm not the person contributing the change you're disagreeing with, and I haven't even voted on the contribution (I have voted since). This has nothing to do with me. I'm only trying to help out. Please don't attack me for that.

Not here Tim. If you want details there is a platform for them. But not here

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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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Not here Tim.

If you don't want the matter to be solved, then why bring it to the forums? 
Please provide us with the details, so we can settle the matter.

Edit: thanks Kluge - I'll have a look.

I've had a quick look, and Kluge is absolutely right. There is an (uncredited) entry for "William Wisher, Jr." while his common name is simply "William Wisher". He's only credited with the suffix once, in 'Terminator', but all his other credits omit the suffix. Since "William Wisher" is his common name, this (uncredited) entry needs to be updated to use that. Skip's no-vote - "We don't use Common Names on (uncredited)" and so on - is incorrect: as explained, we most certainly do use common names for (uncredited) entries, and all the talk about a "Sr." William Wisher is a red herring, as there really only is one Mr. Wisher in the database.

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You've done it WRONG. Most COMMONLY credited name form would be William Wisher, Jr. ===>Willilliam Wisher, Jr. (William Wisher)

No, he's doing it RIGHT. Your "William Wisher, Jr. [William Wisher]" solution would be:

(a) impossible, as we can't use "credited as" for uncredited entries, and

(b) incorrect, since that would suggest that "William Wisher, Jr." is the most-credited for, while it is not. You're suggesting to use the least-used name variant (only even used once!) as the common name. 

Then he will be breaking the link to other William Wisher, Jr. entries which ARE credited. I thought tjhe Common name was to create links, not break them.

Like I said he has done it WRONG.

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