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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Consensus needed! 'Apollo 13' poses a nice problem in that it has two credits for the same guy: Crew: Based on the Book "Lost Moon" by Jeffrey Kluger. Cast cameo (the other writer has a cameo too): Jeffrey S. Kluger as Science Reporter. These are the man's only credits in the entire database. Now: what's his common name? One title for Jeffrey Kluger, one for Jeffrey S. Kluger. There's nothing to act as a tiebreaker. So what do I do? Do I enter the OMB credit as "Jeffrey S. Kluger [Jeffrey Kluger]" and the cast credit as "Jeffrey S. Kluger", or is it the other way around, and do I enter the OMB credit as "Jeffrey Kluger" and the cast credit as "Jeffrey Kluger [Jeffrey S. Kluger]"? Help!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Which came first "The chicken or the egg"?
since the material would have had to be written first, I would use that as the common name.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | As a tiebreaker I'd use the name printed on the book. The credits refer to this, so I can see no real harm done, at least it indicates in which way Mr. Kluger would like to be adressed in his "public life". (This would be Jeffrey Kluger, BTW)  | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Sounds sensible - thanks!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
As a tiebreaker I'd use the name printed on the book.
This sounds like common sense  I agree | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Considering that cast and crew credits don't link, I don't know if this is really needed. But, if your worried about future linking then I would go with Jeffrey S. Kluger as the common name. That way if there is ever another Jeffrey Kluger you won't have to use BY to determine which Jeffrey is which. | | | Are you local?
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
I would go with Jeffrey S. Kluger as the common name. That way if there is ever another Jeffrey Kluger you won't have to use BY to determine which Jeffrey is which.  ??? Wouldn't the problem then occur if there was another Jeffrey S. Kluger?? Quoting rebyr: Quote:
This sounds like common sense So it's probably incorrect    | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
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Wouldn't the problem then occur if there was another Jeffrey S. Kluger??
Of course if there was ever another Jeffrey S. Kluger. However I'm not sure what is being accomplished here in the first place since currently there is only one Jeffrey "S." Kluger credited with the S. in the cast credits and without the S. in the crew credits and we don't have linking between the cast and crew credits. Unless that was added to the new version and I'm not aware of it. | | | Are you local?
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
we don't have linking between the cast and crew credits. But we've been told that this will happen at some point. We're doing this in other areas, too - for instance, Gerri Cole has specifically confirmed that we are to use birth years to distinguish between a cast and crew member with the same name. There as well, the argument that "it doesn't matter because they don't link yet anyway" could be made, but we're told to do so anyway. I for one hope that we get cast-crew-crosslinking real soon. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | I for one was not arguing, just making an observation that the program currently doesn't support cast and crew linking.
On the issue of using the middle name as the common name chances are if there is ever another Jeffrey Kruger the likely hood of him having the same first/middle/last name is highly unlikely. However personally I don't care one way or another if you want to use the name he used for his book that's fine by me. | | | Are you local?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Since cast and crew do not link, there is no need for a common name. Simply enter them as credited and be done with it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
But we've been told that this will happen at some point. When were we told that and by whom? | | | ...James
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Since cast and crew do not link, there is no need for a common name. Simply enter them as credited and be done with it. Would be my idea also, but have seen you were faster. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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