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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | When to use The in titles? 1. Never. 2. When referring to specific (real or fantasy) personalities only. 3. Also when referring to specific objects. 4. Something else I hate English.  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Or how about: 1. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly or 2. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly  | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules: Quote:
Use the title from the front cover. Quote:
For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not. Quote:
Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break. The complete text of the rules: http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=titlesIf I follow the rules I would write: "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" @hal9g: I would say "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" is correct. | | | | Last edited: by Matt788 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mathijs: Quote:
If I follow the rules I would write: "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" Me too. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mathijs: Quote:
The rules: Quote:
Use the title from the front cover.
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not. Except the is not really a "joining" word is it? Which makes it an odd example... And it looks like The on the cover since it uses a larger font for the first capital. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Except the is not really a "joining" word is it? Which makes it an odd example...
And it looks like The on the cover since it uses a larger font for the first capital. I think you did not read the post after my edit? Quote:
Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break. I agree the rules are not 100% clear on the example. But when I check other titles after each colon there is a capital. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mathijs: Quote:
The rules: Quote:
Use the title from the front cover.
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
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Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break.
The complete text of the rules: http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=titles
If I follow the rules I would write: "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe"
@hal9g: I would say "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" is correct. According to the DVDP Rules, you are correct. According to proper English capitalization it would be "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", since all three would be considered proper names in this context. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | The problem is that the rule is poorly written as none of the examples given are 'joining' words. The proper term for joining words is 'conjuction'. A conjunction is a part of speech that connects two words, phrases or clauses together. The three basic conjuctions are 'and', 'but' and 'or'. That being said, here are the basic rules for capitalization in titles: Always capitalize the first and the last word. Capitalize all nouns, pronouns, adjectives, verbs, adverbs, and subordinate conjunctions ("as", "because", "although"). Lowercase all articles, coordinate conjunctions ("and", "or", "nor"), and prepositions regardless of length, when they are other than the first or last word. Lowercase the "to" in an infinitive.An even simpler standard, recommended by The U.S. Government Printing Office Style Manual, is to "Capitalize all words in titles of publications and documents, except a, an, the, at, by, for, in, of, on, to, up, and, as, but, it, or, and nor." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mathijs: Quote:
I agree the rules are not 100% clear on the example. But when I check other titles after each colon there is a capital. I've never questioned the use after a colon. Maybe I should have been clearer but I'm talking about occurences in mid-sentence only, not the first or last word. I agree following the first rule is the simplest, but in some cases it just looks wrong... It's like writing the Beatles instead of The Beatles. I mean, there is only one The Beatles, isn't there? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Quoting Mathijs:
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I agree the rules are not 100% clear on the example. But when I check other titles after each colon there is a capital.
I've never questioned the use after a colon. Maybe I should have been clearer but I'm talking about occurences in mid-sentence only, not the first or last word.
I agree following the first rule is the simplest, but in some cases it just looks wrong... It's like writing the Beatles instead of The Beatles. I mean, there is only one The Beatles, isn't there? Exactly. "The Beatles" is a proper name, and therefore should always be capitalized, no matter where in the sentence/title it appears. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| | Posted: | | | | I've been looking at Gone With the Wind - to - Gone With The Wind - to Gone with the Wind .. all seem to be staggered in Database.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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