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Wrestling-DVD's - CAST!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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Registered: May 25, 2007
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Well, as I am an absolute Wrestling-Freak and a lot of my updates always have been declined, I need to open this discussion:

For my private database I always list the wrestlers with their real names in the database, "credited as" with their Gimmick-Names and usually always the role they played as "Himself"/"Herself"

For example:
Actor: Terrence Gene Bollea
Credited as: Hulk Hogan
Role played: Himself

For me the reason is, that a lot of them changed several Gimmicks or appeared under many different names in several wrestling federations.

Example: Real Name is Michael Francis Foley
appearing as Mick Foley, Jack Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack, Dude Love.....

Or: Real Name is Charles Wright
appearing as Papa Shango, Kama (the supreme Fighting Machine), The Godfather, The Goodfather

I'd prefer to know more about your opinions how to handle this. I downloaded some DVD-Profiles in here where the wrestlers are always to find with their Gimmick-Names, but this way you are never able to see that it is the same person if the Gimmick changes (e. g.: Johnny Hennigan, Johnny Nitro, John Morrison)

If we can find a solution for this, I'd be VERY happy!
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantxradman
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I agree with you.  However, I don't think the current set of rules were designed with professional wrestlers in mind.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
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I definitely agree with you,
the way you are proposing it would be the best way to do it

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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I like to read this! Altough sometimes it seems to impossible to find out real names (especially in the smaller or the indipendent leagues). But if anyone enjoys wrestling and needs help to find out more, just let me know if there is any problem and I'll do my best to find out more ;-)

Another (crazy) change of names:

Kane, the Undertaker (first appearance in WWF)    (so funny as "Kane" later became his "brother")
Mean Mark Callus
The Undertaker
(real name: Mark William Calaway, appearing as Mark Calaway in "Suburban Commando" and as "The Undertaker" in the 4th Season of "Poltergeist - The Legacy")

And the now called "Kane" formerly was "The Una Bomber", Dr. Isaak Yankem, (Fake) Diesel, The Black Night............. but still he is Glenn Thomas Jacobs (also appearing in the movie "See no evil")
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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I agree with you.  However, I don't think the current set of rules were designed with professional wrestlers in mind.


I agree... I don't believe the current rules allows for it at this time.
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I would argue The Undertaker, et all aren't real people, they are characters. They generally have many characteristics that are quite different than the associated actors. For instance, mark Calway has never actually worked as an undertaker, unlike The Undertaker. I would enter Mark Calaway as The Undertaker (uncredited)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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I would argue The Undertaker, et all aren't real people, they are characters. They generally have many characteristics that are quite different than the associated actors. For instance, mark Calway has never actually worked as an undertaker, unlike The Undertaker. I would enter Mark Calaway as The Undertaker (uncredited)

Except that quite a few of them will star in films and use their 'character' name as the credited name...Tripple H in Blade: Trinity, Kane in See No Evil, Hulk Hogan in Rocky 3, etc....so this method doesn't work for all of them.

We are not interested in real names, we are interested in credited names.  While they don't use standard credits, the names are shown on screen.  If they change their name, then we use the most credited form for the common name and use the new name in the 'credited as' field.  I don't know why it has to be any harder than that.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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I would argue The Undertaker, et all aren't real people, they are characters. They generally have many characteristics that are quite different than the associated actors. For instance, mark Calway has never actually worked as an undertaker, unlike The Undertaker. I would enter Mark Calaway as The Undertaker (uncredited)

Except that quite a few of them will star in films and use their 'character' name as the credited name...Tripple H in Blade: Trinity, Kane in See No Evil, Hulk Hogan in Rocky 3, etc....so this method doesn't work for all of them.

We are not interested in real names, we are interested in credited names.  While they don't use standard credits, the names are shown on screen.  If they change their name, then we use the most credited form for the common name and use the new name in the 'credited as' field.  I don't know why it has to be any harder than that.

Agree
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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We are not interested in real names, we are interested in credited names.  While they don't use standard credits, the names are shown on screen.  If they change their name, then we use the most credited form for the common name and use the new name in the 'credited as' field.  I don't know why it has to be any harder than that.

Agree


Agreed too; let's not make this any harder than it has to be and minimise 'exceptions' to the Rules especially where the Rules can be applied as is.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbrimac5477
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i too have asked this in previous posts. it seems the cast listing is all over the place: some dvd's have the real names, others have their "stage names". i really only changed dvd's with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for my personal use because i wanted to know how many dvd's i had with him in it. It is nice that current UFC champ Brock Lesnar goes by his real name so i know how many ufc/wwe dvd's i own with him in it!! Maybe one day there will be a consistent option on cast listing, but for now ??????
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