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Registered: March 14, 2007
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as Invelos no longer sees my contributions as a significant value, I leave the building and stop contributing, don't gonna sit on average profiling a dvd for 8 hours and then see it blocked by always the same people. The joy of profiling is gone, so is the need for contributing.

Sorry for all who appreciated the little contributions I made. Put my Online Collection in the bin, changed my e-mail address.

no votes forced me back to the forum, the same people forced me to this decision, they finally succeeded and no longer have to cope with my contributions.

Quoting T!M:
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What's much worse to my mind is the screeners ignoring them.  What's the point to voting "No" if the screeners are going to ignore valid objections?  They might just as well skip the voting process altogether.

Have you read Ken's stance on this, which I quoted for you on the previous page, at all? That the "standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value"? That gives you all the answers...


invalid objections referring to rules that do no support these objections and still accepted by the screeners, making my contributions a less significant value?

The Hard Way 3259190359499.4

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T!M:
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We don't do wholesale removal of (uncredited) cast data for no reason. Also: incorrect "sound" credits.

bmw850fan:
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see T.M

Graveworm:
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Not sure how hard you looked: http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/1015994?view=credit No reason to remove uncredited.

Han+Swolo:
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Agree with T.M

Invelos: Profile Contribution Declined Jun 28 2010  9:43AM
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An invalid source, such as a third party database, was listed in the contribution notes. Use of a third party database is not allowed per the contribution rules.


The contribution note for this profile:
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According the dvd, dvd cover, movie credits on dvd and the Invelos Credit Lookup: cast, crew, studios, overview & dvd details
removed all uncredited non documented cast (checked @ Invelos website)
Could not find IMDB independent evidence to demonstrate these are in the movie.

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*Updated Notes*
According the dvd, dvd cover, movie credits on dvd and the Invelos Credit Lookup: cast, crew, studios, overview & dvd details
removed all uncredited non documented cast (checked @ Invelos website)
Could not find IMDB independent evidence to demonstrate these are in the movie.

The sound credits are well within the scope of the rules, I'm not the only user tracking these sound crew!
"Frank Graziadei" is credited in the following 29 titles (131 profiles)
"Albert Romero" is credited in the following 14 titles (44 profiles)

This is not a wholesale removal of uncredited cast. I really don't understand your objections. I have no problems with  uncredited actors as long as they are documented and not got imported from somewhere else!
After a thorough search I could find no non-imdb evidence that these uncredited cast is in this movie. If this were the case I had this documented, like I did on other occasions:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&Profil
*Updated Notes*
According the dvd, dvd cover, movie credits on dvd and the Invelos Credit Lookup: cast, crew, studios, overview & dvd details
removed all uncredited non documented cast (checked @ Invelos website)
Could not find IMDB independent evidence to demonstrate these are in the movie.
bfi is same data as from idmb and most likely same source
The sound credits are well within the scope of the rules, I'm not the only user tracking these sound crew!
"Frank Graziadei" is credited in the following 29 titles (131 profiles)
"Albert Romero" is credited in the following 14 titles (44 profiles)

This is not a wholesale removal of uncredited cast. I really don't understand your objections. I have no problems with  uncredited actors as long as they are documented and not got imported from somewhere else!
After a thorough search I could find no non-imdb evidence that these uncredited cast is in this movie. If this were the case I had this documented, like I did on other occasions:


Location Crew & company name credits
Corne while the location crew in his contribution is accepted?
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Unit Crew isn't allowed by the rules: "Do not enter unit crew such as 'Unit Photographer'", the scans are great though

marnix64
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Images and info OK BUT RULES: Unit crew is specifically prohibited by the rules and should not be entered.

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Rules: List individual credits only, not company name credits. These company name credits should be left out.


Uncredited
T!M:
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We don't do wholesale removal of (uncredited) cast data for no reason

even if they are not appearing in the movie? Oh yeah can't touch these, as you brought these in 1st time contributions in your personal profiles.
ruben.:
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read contribute rules about uncedited cast

Graveworm:
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Not sure how hard you looked: http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/1015994?view=credit No reason to remove uncredited.
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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strange when the same profile was accepted with 17 yes votes.
Auf die harte Tour 3259190359499.5
TomGaines, micha2310, DJ+Doena , Deckard99, Zipcom, Schlitzi, horrordvdfreak, Darxon, kahless, topbaer.de, DragonMa, Armand, RoadrunnerDVD, _Jessie_, ricu99, ust, Starship80
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Ken you should put a health warning sign on dvd profiler and the forum.
Profiling can damage your health.
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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contribution notes space is to short, if you need to defend your contributions against people like T!M

this was the link missing for the uncredited:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=26266&PageNum=LAST
but as T!M don't like removing uncredited people and only his research is good enough for Invelos ....
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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Catwoman: 7321932314502.30 1 yes 1 no: marnix64: not company name credits. These company name credits should be left out.

Catwoman: 7321932314502.9 12 yes 0 No
cvermeylen, Sokaris, Winnie, eommen, mark_b, Joost+Resink , reusla, Han+Swolo, Olaf73, janvg, stafked,
frank33_98
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And yes I only contributed the physical DVD disc that is in my collection (same disc-id)
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
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Registered: May 8, 2007
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Sad to see you leave, I appreciated your contributions.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Sad to see you leave, I appreciated your contributions.

Who is/was he?
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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scotthm I assume from the complaints and the tone.

If you don't like profiling per the rules, well, then don't do it.  Don't whinge about it.
"This movie has warped my fragile little mind."
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Registered: March 20, 2007
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scotthm I assume from the complaints and the tone.

Did someone call?

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting gardibolt:
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scotthm I assume from the complaints and the tone.

If you don't like profiling per the rules, well, then don't do it.  Don't whinge about it.


No, it's not, please check your facts before speculating. 

And no, I don't know who ? is. *shrug*
First registered: February 15, 2002
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Sorry to see anyone leave but, I would not take "No" votes so personally remember that there is life away from profiling.  When it comes to uncredited it is always going to be difficult to remove these entries.  What I do when it comes to uncredited is, when in doubt leave them alone, as members can easily remove these from their local profile if they want.

All I can say is anyone that has ever contributed has had their share of "No" votes even ones that are not justified.  If they are correct "No" votes I either make the corrections or pull the contribution depending on the error.  If they are not correct "No" votes then I leave it to the screeners and yes even the screeners make mistakes.

I personally don't contribute like I used to mainly because working two jobs and I enjoy watching movies more then just profiling them.  However, I still catch myself reading the credits way too much.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Who is/was he?

He used to go by "Giga Wizard", but the last time he left changed his forum alias into "." and now into "?".
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAstrakan
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? was . who was... GigaWizard or something like that, if I remember correctly.

I thought he left when he changed his name to . or maybe that was just leaving the forum and not stopping contributions?

Either way, I will never understand people who stop contributing because they get some of their contributions rejected. I've given this advice in the past, and I'm sure I'll give it again, but as far as I'm concerned the secret to happy Profiling and contributing is simple:

Do it for yourself first and foremost.

Everything I do with my database I do it for me. And I am perfectly happy to contribute any work I do, I see no reason not to. If that contribution gets rejected, no big deal since I did it for myself to begin with and so there's no wasted effort.

edited: T!M beat me to the first part. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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Everything I do with my database I do it for me.

So you're not Bryan Adams then?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheDarkKnight
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting Silence_of_Lambs:
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Quoting Astrakan:
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Everything I do with my database I do it for me.

So you're not Bryan Adams then?



Good one! Thanks for making me laugh.

Back on topic, I thought GigaWizard left some time ago. This is confusing but it's always sad to see someone leave.
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