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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | David Shire is billed or credited in both opening and closing credits of 2010 Year we Make Contact as original music by. Not composer . So according to profiler here the only option is to use Theme by ..??  would this be correct for a revised change in the current credits? - David Shire is currently listed as Composer | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | The crew table says that "Music by" is to be credited as composer. The notes say this is "Used for the composer of the film's Original Score".
I would definately credit him as Composer.
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
The crew table says that "Music by" is to be credited as composer. The notes say this is "Used for the composer of the film's Original Score".
I would definately credit him as Composer. Yes, this. | | | | Corey |
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The crew table says that "Music by" is to be credited as composer. The notes say this is "Used for the composer of the film's Original Score".
I would definately credit him as Composer.
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The crew table says that "Music by" is to be credited as composer. The notes say this is "Used for the composer of the film's Original Score".
I would definately credit him as Composer.
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| | Posted: | | | | I just thought if he didn't actually compose the music but just ' improvised' his own variation it would be theme BY .. So David Shire should be credited as the music composer for i.e. Also Spake Zarathustra or film's composer for variation of a theme or music of .. Just seems problematic as I recently wanted to use Andre Previn for for his music in Gigi (1958) but was struck down as it was determined (here amongst us) that Frederick Lowe was the composer of the music since Andre Previn did the film score therefore he was deemed not the composer . Here we have the same scenario but different outcomes....  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| | Posted: | | | | Composer. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I just thought if he didn't actually compose the music but just ' improvised' his own variation it would be theme BY ..
So David Shire should be credited as the music composer for i.e. Also Spake Zarathustra or film's composer for variation of a theme or music of ..
Just seems problematic as I recently wanted to use Andre Previn for for his music in Gigi (1958) but was struck down as it was determined (here amongst us) that Frederick Lowe was the composer of the music since Andre Previn did the film score therefore he was deemed not the composer .
Here we have the same scenario but different outcomes.... I don't know about any of that but, based on the screencap you have provided and no other information...like another composer credit... he should be entered as 'Composer'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| | Posted: | | | | Kinda like- He 'composed' ( copied ) other people's 'original music' and therefore he can take credit as the orignal composer of his music by ....  Actually don't get me wrong.. as I can see the rules do say composer. .I'm just bringing this up as I don't feel the wording is correct and the area ( in the rules) for Theme By is empty and not filled in with any information....  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Kinda like- He 'composed' ( copied ) other people's 'original music' and therefore he can take credit as the orignal composer of his music by ....
Actually don't get me wrong.. as I can see the rules do say composer. .I'm just bringing this up as I don't feel the wording is correct and the area ( in the rules) for Theme By is empty and not filled in with any information....
"Original Music by" tells me that he composed (i.e. "wrote") the original music used in this film. If there is other music in the film that he did not compose it is irrelevent to this credit, IMO. --------------- |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Kinda like- He 'composed' ( copied ) other people's 'original music' and therefore he can take credit as the orignal composer of his music by ....
Actually don't get me wrong.. as I can see the rules do say composer. .I'm just bringing this up as I don't feel the wording is correct and the area ( in the rules) for Theme By is empty and not filled in with any information....
I am not sure how you are getting all that from the credit. All I am getting is that he is responsible for the original music. No more, no less. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Kinda like- He 'composed' ( copied ) other people's 'original music' and therefore he can take credit as the orignal composer of his music by ....
Actually don't get me wrong.. as I can see the rules do say composer. .I'm just bringing this up as I don't feel the wording is correct and the area ( in the rules) for Theme By is empty and not filled in with any information....
"Theme by" is not a repository for all alternate film credits. "Original music by" means that he wrote the original music that's used in the film. It's not giving him credit for Also Spake Zarathustra or any other unoriginal music that's used in the film. Your previous Andre Previn questions were regarding him as the conductor of the music. As with songs, we don't credit the performers of the music but rather only the writers of any original music or original songs used in the film. | | | ...James
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
I just thought if he didn't actually compose the music but just ' improvised' his own variation it would be theme BY ..
So David Shire should be credited as the music composer for i.e. Also Spake Zarathustra or film's composer for variation of a theme or music of ..
Just seems problematic as I recently wanted to use Andre Previn for for his music in Gigi (1958) but was struck down as it was determined (here amongst us) that Frederick Lowe was the composer of the music since Andre Previn did the film score therefore he was deemed not the composer .
Here we have the same scenario but different outcomes.... We record the credits, not the reality. So if the information about Frederick Lowe did not come out of the credits, it is irrelevant. And then the "conclusion" in the Gigi case was wrong. | | | | Hans |
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